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Post by paulh on Mar 31, 2009 9:36:11 GMT
Krom
There are various forms of sexual magic practice - but none appear to be better than grey - and the literature from those attracted to their practice seems to be a lesson in itself.
The central issue here is whether there is some higher work that can occur during sex. In the English culture we make a distinction between having sex and making love. In some cases the latter description may be true in the sense of bringing heart energies to bless the lower planes.
Now the process of bringing through higher energies is essentially electric polarity. Thus the energy comes from on high (often literally) passing through the male into the female and then commonly into the Earth or perhaps returning to the source on high.
There may also be a flow from on high directly into the female. If it occurs intensely, it establishes a field (perhaps midnight blue with sparkles) that draws energy more strongly through the male than would otherwise occur and provides inner nourishment to the layers of light body.
The energy circuits occur most strongly when the corresponding male and female chakras (sephira) are pressed together. And there can be disturbance with chakra mismatch. It can be particularly disturbing to a woman's head chakras to have ejaculation into her mouth of semen and energies. It is even worse when there are dark interferences in the male's lower chakras - as may be the norm.
When the couple are suited their alignment may attract sponsors from on high whose interest is in the unfoldment of the Earth. This may result in anchoring of energy patterns in the kingdoms of creation and the landscape. There may also be specific augmentation of the light bodies of one or both of the partners with semi-divine qualities
On occasions sponsors may approach regardless of the human situation. I once asked a group of 6 women whether they had ever noticed an urge to sex that was extraordinary and 4 of them immediately said they had. A typical example was waking with her partner in the middle of the night and commencing vigorous intercourse whilst half asleep.
In that situation you may wonder whether the sponsors are really from on high. If the couple are of sufficient purity of life and intent then such an intervention is probably quite acceptable. My observation of humans however is that few are free from dark interference.
You may deduce from above that energy purity and sponsors from on high are essential for the more profound aspects of human relationship.
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Post by kromedragon on Mar 31, 2009 14:52:16 GMT
Paulh
Can we assume that seminal discharge into any female orifice will bring about astral births, of astral creatures especially of the dark type? Would this be more true for seminal discharge into her orally? In HR Giger's drawings about the creature in the movie "species", he suggests that seminal discharge into the woman's mouth would result in astral fetus forming in the lungs of the woman. Upon maturity, the fetus would expel from the womans mouth in the form of her own breath or a bhurp. All the while she would not be aware of the whole thing, other than the fact that a seminal discharge occured to her during fellatio.
Is such an idea feasible in an astral / demonic situation?
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Post by paulh on Apr 1, 2009 22:13:47 GMT
It is not so much the dense substance discharged as the subtle substance.
At the time of orgasm, depending upon the development, several chakras may open and discharge energy at the same time. These energies may be by supplemented by other beings that wish to inject additional energies. The collection of energies can be used by nearby beings to form intelligent structures/beings for various purposes - within the limits of the energy types and the intent and alignment of the creating entities.
The recipient female, if a typical human, would not be very aware of such events.
So the answer to your question is that you describe a very specific and rather dark scenario that exists within a very broad range of inner events possible during human sex.
Also you may note that child abusers were typically abuse victims themselves. This tells us that the basis for the abusive behaviour may well be transmitted through sex. More specifically the obsessing or possessing entity when ready for spawning may drive the host to have sex with whoever is available and the spawning occur at that time.
Possession can occur during sexual intercourse accordingly humans seeking male partners for sex need to be particularly discriminating.
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Post by kromedragon on Apr 3, 2009 4:27:27 GMT
Paulh Would it correct to assume that spawning offspring via human sex may not be the only gain for astral entities. Infact, if the astral entities were not to achieve any spawning thru human-sex, they could still gain the energies given of by the female, as well as partake of the energies that circuit out of her after coming thru the man. Furthermore they could add their own energy input to the circuit thru the man, injecting her with their energies mixed with his, into the female, consequently deriving psychic or astral or other energy benefit from the female.
Is this somewhat accurate?
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Post by paulh on Apr 3, 2009 21:33:07 GMT
In sexual activity there is typically quite a lot of unmanaged energies that may be absorbed by interested parties - including human observers.
In addition it is very frequent to have dark connections into lower chakras so that other entities may feed from or interfere with the energetic events.
I observed a human therapist who specialised in psychodrama. I would watch him approach an animated group and sit a few feet away feeding off the energies until the energy levels in the group got so low there was little conversation. Then he would move off to another animated group and the same would repeat.
Chakras with permanent negative interference usually have dark energy lines entering (often from behind) and can be observed inwardly with little effort.
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Post by kromedragon on Apr 4, 2009 3:59:22 GMT
Thank you Paulh. Your responses were very helpful. I have had these questions hanging in my mind for over 5 years. Thank you for clearing up lots of unanswered questions.
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Post by Yoki on Apr 26, 2009 21:10:33 GMT
My first thought was to say sorry folks the transformational process under discussion is not tied to physical fluid so much as it is about a metaphysical substance, but on reading more carefully that point has been made. The purposeful activation of this energy can involve sex as in Tantra yoga but it is about the climax not its messy result. If that energy is activated through the physical act but contained in the brain (in essence all sensations are brain based) rather than dispersed through said act, it can assist a transformation process. Ecstasy is said to be the sensations of a climax times one thousand which is ironic as many Christian saints went out of their way to shun anything sexual. In light of this you have to wonder if religious abstinence contains that energy allowing a build up . In a earlier posting it was pointed out that this energy is creative and it is .On the physical it creates new life, it is at work within the creative individual and at a optimum level within the saint or mystic.
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Post by vajranagini on Jul 13, 2009 2:16:03 GMT
The most important point of the whole "Tantra" thing is that you must never forget your primary goal. This is the BIG stumbling block, and more people go astray over this particular point than any other. One studies "Tantra" in order to cross over existence and achieve the goal, which is GOD. In all the time I have studied tantra, I have YET to EVER at any time, hear any other aspirant mention this crucial point, and as yet, I have, not surprisingly, seen anyone "achieve", either. In fact, I have seen more spectacular DEBACLES. If I have achieved anything at all in this field, it was because I never forgot that "attaining to God" was the objective.
The most useful advice on the methodology was found in the accounts of Shri Ramakrishna Paramahansa. Though strictly celibate all his life, he was not unfamiliar with the "Khartabhaja" sect, and made some very useful observations. He described it as a legitimate path to God, but a "dirty" path. He phrased it thus: If you live in a room full of soot, no matter how careful, you cannot help but get dirty" meaning that no matter how careful you were the danger of getting caught up in the indulgence of these practices was very high. Still, he noted, some people had "attained" through them, and so he acknowledged their legitimacy. But he strongly advised his disciples to keep to more orthodox methods, lest they be lost.
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Post by edward on Aug 1, 2009 3:23:23 GMT
i have not entirely read this thread, i will continue to do so, but i have to post my first reation to the question im concerned with these practices of enlightment and mysticism through sexual repression, this is commonly used method of brainwashing in cults. for more info: The Mass Psychology of Fascism gyanpedia.in/tft/Resources/books/massreich.pdfand here: "Social engineering practices condition a population over generations which gradually conditions them for disgust over basic sex education as traditional sex cults have conditioned children to accept ignorance through active sexual repression practices. Most of these practices target men as "predators," and attempt to "control" sex drives and sex education. These same programs were used in Nazi Germany to condition a populace for racial disgust, thus paving the way for the Holocaust. Keeping children ignorant and raising them like sheep through a false religious imperative and criminalizing fathers is now practiced all over the world to indoctrinate children for authoritarian rule, according to Schaefer, as these methods are even employed extensively by U.S. child services organizations." robertscourt.blogspot.com/2007/12/nazi-claims-sexual-repression-used.html........... if you pay close attention to fairy tails, or movies (which are almost always fairy tales, hero myth) you will notice the whole call to adventure begins with a symbol of sexual guilt/repression, which brings about the need for the hero to decend to the unconsious, and then return, ussually ends with a BANG and the hero barely escapes on a magic carpet ride..... should the goal of transmutation then be to turn lead to gold, to turn sexual guilt to sexual confidence ? so i guess i get confused on this.... i am stating to think it is not a matter of sexual repression or expulsion, but rather sexual attraction based on objectivity or spirituality. help please.
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Post by vajranagini on Aug 8, 2009 18:14:10 GMT
The technique of "sexual repression" is predicated on the transmutation of sexual energies into spiritual ones. One preserves one's sexual energy in order to "offer it up". Sexual repression per se does nothing much for one's spirituality; the mind must control and direct the process in order to direct it into spiritual channels. The pressure must "build' in order to "force" the kundalini into awakening. However there is one caveat; awakening the kundalini power without having a "God-form" available for it to identify with, will cause it to"blow back" onto one' self. This is undesirable in the extreme; one can end up in an insane asylum. Just read Gopi Krishna's books for a little insight on how this can happen! The very best book I have ever read on kundalini is Dr. Robert Svoboda's book "Kundalini"; in fact the whole 3-book series is virtually a crash course on Aghora Tantra. It sure worked for ME!
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