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Post by happyzealot on Nov 9, 2009 3:33:43 GMT
Ex FB nihilo fit
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Post by maximus on Nov 9, 2009 3:50:20 GMT
I don't believe in divine judgement. Nope, not one bit.How convienient. That allows you great latitude of action within a moral context, free of constraint. Mens regnum bona possidet.
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Post by happyzealot on Nov 9, 2009 3:54:33 GMT
In vino veritas. In pace requiescata.
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Post by maat on Nov 9, 2009 3:59:36 GMT
In reality if there is a God, I doubt he would give a crap about anything we do. Love and Light, Then why do you send Love and Light if you deny an origin for them? Maat
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Post by maat on Nov 9, 2009 4:01:37 GMT
Come to think of it... if you doubt that there is a Grand Organising Priniciple, what the heck are you doing at your lodge, temple, whatever...
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Post by magusmasonica on Nov 9, 2009 4:01:37 GMT
I don't believe in divine judgement. Nope, not one bit.How convienient. That allows you great latitude of action within a moral context, free of constraint. Mens regnum bona possidet. Call it what you want. The idea of getting face time with the Creator when I would not even be sub-atomic on a sense of scale with him seems to me absurd. I don't believe in final judgement, I don't believe in hell. I don't believe that the Creator was so bored that he had to create himself an "adversary." Nope, don't believe in any of that. Love and Light,
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Post by happyzealot on Nov 9, 2009 4:02:36 GMT
Hm. Nice way to dodge/ignore Maat's question...
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Post by magusmasonica on Nov 9, 2009 4:04:09 GMT
In reality if there is a God, I doubt he would give a crap about anything we do. Love and Light, Then why do you send Love and Light if you deny an origin for them? Maat The originator needs to keep in constant involement in order for the creation to continue? Ever hear that what is set in motion stays in motion? Love and Light,
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Post by magusmasonica on Nov 9, 2009 4:04:46 GMT
Come to think of it... if you doubt that there is a Grand Organising Priniciple, what the heck are you doing at your lodge, temple, whatever... Remanifesting. Love and Light,
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Post by magusmasonica on Nov 9, 2009 4:06:25 GMT
Come to think of it... if you doubt that there is a Grand Organising Priniciple, what the heck are you doing at your lodge, temple, whatever... There are Atheists in your Order Maat, do you ask the same of them? Love and Light,
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Post by maximus on Nov 9, 2009 4:07:18 GMT
In vino veritas. In pace requiescata. Eventus stultorum magister. ;D
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Post by happyzealot on Nov 9, 2009 4:08:31 GMT
Hmmm... pertinent question to ask since Masonry without theism kinda misses the point.
One of those aforementioned 'salient points', imho.
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Post by maximus on Nov 9, 2009 4:09:49 GMT
Meaning exactly... what? Anything like, say, Hope, Change?
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Post by magusmasonica on Nov 9, 2009 4:10:16 GMT
Hmmm... pertinent question to ask since Masonry without theism kinda misses the point. One of those aforementioned 'salient points', imho. Then you are out of sync with thousands of Masons all over the world. So mote it be.
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Post by happyzealot on Nov 9, 2009 4:10:36 GMT
In vino veritas. In pace requiescata. Eventus stultorum magister. ;D Exalt, hippy.
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Post by Augur on Nov 9, 2009 4:10:56 GMT
Come to think of it... if you doubt that there is a Grand Organising Priniciple, what the heck are you doing at your lodge, temple, whatever... Remanifesting. Love and Light, A Setian term. Interesting. Especially followed by ' Love and Light'. Heh.
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Post by magusmasonica on Nov 9, 2009 4:11:29 GMT
Meaning exactly... what? Anything like, say, Hope, Change? You're a smart guy, you don't need to ask me. Love and Light,
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Post by Augur on Nov 9, 2009 4:12:03 GMT
Meaning exactly... what? Anything like, say, Hope, Change? It's Setian dogma. Do a google. I won't dirty my mind vomiting forth it's precepts.
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Post by happyzealot on Nov 9, 2009 4:14:29 GMT
Then you are out of sync with thousands of Masons all over the world. Really? My, aren't we full of pith and vinegar tonight! Verily I say: Then it is they who are out of sync with me, and with the rest of Freemasonry, for that matter, the majority of which is theistic (or, rather: deistic) in nature. Talk about taking the point outta the circle. Christ.
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Post by magusmasonica on Nov 9, 2009 4:17:50 GMT
Then you are out of sync with thousands of Masons all over the world. Really? My, aren't we full of pith and vinegar tonight! Verily I say: Then it is they who are out of sync with me, and with the rest of Freemasonry, for that matter, the majority of which is theistic (or, rather: deistic) in nature. Talk about taking the point outta the circle. Christ. Here is the majority argument again. I am glad you are in the majority, good for you. "The constant assertion of belief is an indication of fear. " Jiddu Krishnamurti Love and Light,
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