KNOs1s
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Post by KNOs1s on Sept 15, 2010 7:27:03 GMT
Thank you, Brother Leo, for trusted information.
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Post by Leo on Sept 15, 2010 7:34:10 GMT
Thank you, Brother Leo, for trusted information. You're welcome. Bro. Irishmason's circumstances are not too unique; this sort of thing has happened before and Masonic differences are not necessarily unhealthy, sometimes it is from such differences we see the type of change where everyone ultimately benefits.
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Post by KNOs1s on Sept 15, 2010 7:39:30 GMT
Thank you, Brother Leo, for trusted information. You're welcome. Bro. Irishmason's circumstances are not too unique; this sort of thing has happened before and Masonic differences are not necessarily unhealthy, sometimes it is from such differences we see the type of change where everyone ultimately benefits. I agree, Brother Leo. I was only seeking the veracity of the claims, as you have verified for me. The details on now on the threshing floor, albeit from one side for now.
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Post by Leo on Sept 15, 2010 7:49:38 GMT
For sure. I too had the same initial concerns, so know precisely where you were coming from.
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Post by irishmason on Sept 15, 2010 8:26:55 GMT
. Look to yourself for an organizations root cause of success or failure. If you say 'I can't deal with the GL', does it truly show their failure, or yours? I have no basis to agree with you aside from your claim, and have heard nothing of the claimed interactions in Ireland. Indeed, I do not know if you are a Mason or even from Ireland. Heck, for all you've offered we do not even know that you're not from somewhere in the U.S. and your claims are false. While interesting to know, the ideas of the TRICOLOR lodge is nothing new and fairly unremarkable to my viewing. You have given no reason for us to believe you or to trust your word. Nothing is meant to be easy, but nothing is impossible to a true and honest Mason and perseverance. None of my friends or brothers in Ireland have mentioned nothing of what you claim. On that matter, you have yet to answer Leo's questions, of which many are extremely anxious to hear. It is odd Leo's acquaintances in the G.O. seem to know nothing of you or your lodge. Can you please just answer Leo's questions? Certainly, your cabletow will extend that far. All that is being requested is that you meet us on the level. Thus far, you have inexplicably seemed resistant. You can rectify that with an informative post, and please do so. I know KNOs1s that you are very curious but I will not be tempted to react to your unfraternal provocations. Leo said the right words and I thank him for his fraternal reaction. KNOs1s ! Leave it to me to give further information. To consecrate a lodge is not a matter to be advertised over all TV channels and it was born out of the individual decision of respectable brethren, who are a long time in Masonry. To have a cheek to question my integrity as a Mason comes near to the cheek we were confronted with here in Ireland. I give a d…on the information you got. I am 30 years in Masonry, in several degrees and in some of them at top level. Do you expect that I publish my name in a forum, which can be read by Masons and Non-Masons alike? Why are you not revealing YOUR name? How would I know that YOU are a mason? My name is known in European Masonry, do not worry. And that’s why I am not responding to your allegations and provocations here on the open market place.
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Post by irishmason on Sept 15, 2010 8:39:28 GMT
I was away for a few days but now back in the fold In any event, after further investigations and delving deeper into all of this I have learned that Irishmason and his Masonic colleagues are not in any way connected with a certain individual from the USA who conjures up lodges overnight. Others will draw their own conclusions regardless of what I say, but despite my initial reservations I now believe Irishmason to be genuine. It isn’t for me to reveal anymore about him, it is the right of everyone on this forum to maintain their anonymity should they so wish. I will simply state that he is a Brother who lives and works in Ireland and a former member of GLI [Grand Lodge of Ireland]. Irishmason may at some stage chose to reveal more about himself, but that will be his choice. I wish him and his colleagues the very best for their Masonic future in Killarney, Co. Kerry and hope to someday visit with them down there in that very beautiful part of Ireland. Thanks Leo for your kind words. And you and your wife are most welcomed in Killarney.
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Post by Leo on Sept 15, 2010 8:40:35 GMT
Irishmason, I can well understand your sense of frustration, especially after reading some of the comments posted on this thread, but in view of what went on before with another individual I also understand why some of these concerns were raised. But now that everyone is aware that you are legit and a genuine Brother you should expect a very different reaction.
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Post by Leo on Sept 15, 2010 8:42:52 GMT
I was away for a few days but now back in the fold In any event, after further investigations and delving deeper into all of this I have learned that Irishmason and his Masonic colleagues are not in any way connected with a certain individual from the USA who conjures up lodges overnight. Others will draw their own conclusions regardless of what I say, but despite my initial reservations I now believe Irishmason to be genuine. It isn’t for me to reveal anymore about him, it is the right of everyone on this forum to maintain their anonymity should they so wish. I will simply state that he is a Brother who lives and works in Ireland and a former member of GLI [Grand Lodge of Ireland]. Irishmason may at some stage chose to reveal more about himself, but that will be his choice. I wish him and his colleagues the very best for their Masonic future in Killarney, Co. Kerry and hope to someday visit with them down there in that very beautiful part of Ireland. Thanks Leo for your kind words. And you and your wife are most welcomed in Killarney. Thank you. We look forward to visiting in the not too distant future.
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Post by KNOs1s on Sept 15, 2010 9:27:45 GMT
Irishmason, I can well understand your sense of frustration, especially after reading some of the comments posted on this thread, but in view of what went on before with another individual I also understand why some of these concerns were raised. But now that everyone is aware that you are legit and a genuine Brother you should expect a very different reaction. Thank you, Brother Leo. IrishMason, all I sought for was verification of your claims. Brother Leo has provided verification, and him I trust. My identity was posted here in my introduction many months ago, and if you ask me directly I will provide it and my Masonic information and can provide many brothers that can confirm the information. If you find that to have cheek or unMasonic, it's your judgment call. You are free to have your opinions of me. I am no great mystery on the internet, even if I'm 'cheeky' from time-to-time.
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Post by irishmason on Sept 15, 2010 9:37:42 GMT
Irishmason, I can well understand your sense of frustration, especially after reading some of the comments posted on this thread, but in view of what went on before with another individual I also understand why some of these concerns were raised. But now that everyone is aware that you are legit and a genuine Brother you should expect a very different reaction. Thank you, Brother Leo. IrishMason, all I sought for was verification of your claims. Brother Leo has provided verification, and him I trust. My identity was posted here in my introduction many months ago, and if you ask me directly I will provide it and my Masonic information and can provide many brothers that can confirm the information. If you find that to have cheek or unMasonic, it's your judgment call. You are free to have your opinions of me. I am no great mystery on the internet, even if I'm 'cheeky' from time-to-time. OK KNOs1s thanks :-)
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