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Post by parisfred on Sept 29, 2010 17:26:45 GMT
It took me sometimes to understand it, usa was built for religious freedom everything religious is sacred , the french republic is about freedom from religion. its a big differences, the law protect us from the catholic church that always tried to interfere in the citizen life school, hospital...- we are mainly a catholic country. With islam we don t have the tools and every move look like a racist agression.
The imigration became a concern in the 80s with the unemployment but also with the son and grand son of immigrants who - for some of them - don t feel citizen or even half citizen.
I don t see any solution.
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KNOs1s
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I am inclined agree or disagree based on the quality and quantity of proffered information.
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Post by KNOs1s on Sept 29, 2010 18:23:51 GMT
I understand from of religion should include freedom from religion, and should not infringe upon the rights of individuals to choose their religion or non-religion as they see fit. This is under the onus that the practice of your religion not interfere with the rights of others. Personally, I know and know of atheists I believe are truly religious and dogmatic in their approach.
I understand to a reasonable degree France's issues with religion and the Catholic, yet I think that the search for freedom has departed at times from individual rights; those rights being the first step to freedom, not the last. Doing something to be against the Catholic church is not an earmark of good governmental practice. Religious freedom is (or should be held as) sacred, and it is as sacred to believers as it is to non-believers. Individual rights are the most important thing in the U.S.A. Religious freedom is only a part of the rights of an individual. The idea must be holistic, and cannot serve alone those with whom we agree.
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Post by rembrandt on Sept 30, 2010 2:22:39 GMT
From the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Article 18.
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
Is this being addressed in a burqa ban? Note that the Universal Declaration of Human Rights requires the inherent right to express their religion "in public."
Article 19.
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
This article made no disctinction between popular or unpopular opinions. If a nation that is a signatory cannot abide by the articles of the universal declaration of human rights then they should withdraw their support of that document.
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Post by billmcelligott on Jan 27, 2011 15:18:27 GMT
Unlocked, but will be watching to make sure it is a debate and not anything else.
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