commiegirl
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Post by commiegirl on Sept 5, 2012 23:04:12 GMT
It seems that American freemasonry and Patriotism are deeply connected. You see Freemasons marching in 4th of July parades and so forth. Reading the history on Freemasonry and it's formation often under penalty of law I wonder why this is the case.
It seems that Freemasonry has a past of political insurgency.
When did this cease to be the case?
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Alberich
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Post by Alberich on Sept 6, 2012 1:08:33 GMT
It seems that American freemasonry and Patriotism are deeply connected. You see Freemasons marching in 4th of July parades and so forth. Reading the history on Freemasonry and it's formation often under penalty of law I wonder why this is the case. It seems that Freemasonry has a past of political insurgency. When did this cease to be the case? Who sez that it's ceased? And how do you define "Patiotism"? Do you mean some dude drinking beer, farting, with a TV remote in his hand, saying "my country right or wrong"? Or do you refer to "pater" ... for instance, if one travels to the American midwest, there are many towns and farms surrounded by huge oak trees that are a few hundreds of years old. Obviously, the planters of those trees probably never enjoyed the massive amount of shade that they now provide their descendants hundreds of years later, thus giving rise to the notion that perhaps they wished to create something good and lasting for others to enjoy. Does "Patriotism" refer to bombing third world hellholes so that the banking elite can war profiteer, and create propaganda to trick these beer-belchers into going along with it? Or does it perhaps refer to something else? Well, all I know is that blowing stuff up on the fourth of July is cool, and who cares if our hard-won freedoms have been squandered away, or if I have to drive through check points where there are stupid thugs waiting. I have cool stuff, so who cares about these poor countries? As Marie Antoinette said, "let them eat napalm".
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Alberich
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Post by Alberich on Sept 6, 2012 1:15:35 GMT
Anyway, who said that religion and politics have to be separated? I'm talking 'bout the main It thing here. Attachments:
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commiegirl
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Post by commiegirl on Sept 6, 2012 4:36:39 GMT
Patriotism: (n) love for or devotion to one's country.
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Post by rembrandt on Sept 8, 2012 4:21:29 GMT
One's country is not one's government. Governments come and go. The people remain.
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Alberich
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Post by Alberich on Sept 11, 2012 3:45:52 GMT
Patriotism: (n) love for or devotion to one's country. Just for fun, let's try out something a little more broad than the narrow definition you gave, and maybe get at the actual root idea behind the word: I'm sticking to my story about the oak trees planted by the paters -- some of whom were masons. Most were too tired to march in parades, fart, or belch beer burps.
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