rosecrossmac
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Post by rosecrossmac on Oct 6, 2012 15:53:54 GMT
I'm looking for more sources. The only FB group I'm on is very small and mainly in French.
Sources such as forums, FB or Google + would be much appreciated.
Blessings.
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Post by sid on Oct 7, 2012 20:11:40 GMT
I'm looking for more sources. The only FB group I'm on is very small and mainly in French. Sources such as forums, FB or Google + would be much appreciated. Blessings. There are so many forums, groups and Orders on the internet, but after looking at your blog I thought that this group may be of some interest to you: western-esoteric.proboards.com/That said, I still beleave that the actual 'search' upon the path is also a part of the process. Be careful, because even the S'tology people are in the business of creating occult orders, without even mentioning the ultra left/right wing occult groups. You wrote that you were a Rosicrucian, upon the R+C path. May I ask which one/group?
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Post by rembrandt on Oct 8, 2012 3:58:15 GMT
It is fairly easy to contact different Masonic orders. Many have websites and give contact information.
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Post by invictus1 on Oct 8, 2012 4:32:39 GMT
But then you'd have to admit as to who you really are.
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rosecrossmac
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Post by rosecrossmac on Oct 8, 2012 15:50:30 GMT
But then you'd have to admit as to who you really are. Is this a backhanded insult? If it is I'm disappointed in you. I've been nothing but honest and upfront and have treated you with nothing but courtesy and kindness. If you're a Martinist and you act in such a snide and cruel way I have to ask, is the system flawed or have you failed to receive it?
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Alberich
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Post by Alberich on Oct 8, 2012 19:36:44 GMT
Checkmate. Attachments:
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Post by rembrandt on Oct 9, 2012 6:13:46 GMT
The hills are over there.
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Post by ichermes on Oct 12, 2012 7:35:37 GMT
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Post by middlepillar on Oct 12, 2012 21:08:59 GMT
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rosecrossmac
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Post by rosecrossmac on Oct 13, 2012 7:21:46 GMT
I applied , I don't expect to be allowed in.
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Post by invictus1 on Oct 13, 2012 17:00:23 GMT
it's a terrific group and was recently set up because the admin of the original Masonic Esoteric discussion group refused to bear false witness against an innocent Brother.
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Post by middlepillar on Oct 13, 2012 18:28:19 GMT
it's a terrific group and was recently set up because the admin of the original Masonic Esoteric discussion group refused to bear false witness against an innocent Brother. I would be interested in joining this if you could possibly arrange an invite? Much appreciated
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Post by ichermes on Oct 13, 2012 21:33:37 GMT
I'm just about tired of your lies and slanderous comments.
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Post by invictus1 on Oct 13, 2012 21:47:58 GMT
I'm just about tired of your lies and slanderous comments. Poor ichermes - you have no problem trying to have innocent Brothers banned from FB groups, but when called on it you get all self righteous.
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Post by ichermes on Oct 13, 2012 22:28:41 GMT
Freemason Esoteric Discussion Group is a private group created to bring together brothers who are interested in Esoteric Masonry, Alchemy and Gnosticism. Its membership includes some of the most clearly learned brothers in the craft, including Art de Hoyas, Bob Davis, Piers Vaughan, and Timothy Hogan. The discussions are private and the members are asked to use discretion as to who they invite. Pythagoras was the first to discuss an inner circle and would say that each person contributes according to their ability but everyone serves the Great Work. We treat the discussions much like we are in a lodge room. While we want ideas to be shared, discussed and argued, we ask that it be done with respect and decorum and that none of the content is cross-posted without the original author's permission.
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Post by ichermes on Oct 14, 2012 3:00:12 GMT
EDIT: there have been posts removed from this thread, but the skunk has been let out of the box. I'll leave this post up, since some martinists seem to think it's ok to spread lies about others.
Some people always take issue with those who are in leadership positions, no matter what they do. To some people it doesn't matter what authority does, their envy-driven psychosis makes them want to find problems. They take positive growth, things like peace initiatives and education programs, and twist them into some made up boogey-man story. They manufacture absurd "realities" so that they can play the victim and attack those illusions like straw men, when what really lies at the heart of the issue is a deep-seated hatred for anyone they see as an authority figure.
All this leads to creating division. Even though Masonry teaches tolerance, it does not teach a false tolerance that we should put up with people who spread lies about their brothers and twist facts to meet their own made up delusions; people who break their obligations. We are obligated to never defame our brothers. Freemasonry is about doing real work in the quarries, not talking about brothers behind their backs or with anonymous facebook accounts. Those who work with and help them slander other people are just as guilty as the ring-leader.
It's much easier to sit back and criticize people than to get out and be a real leader, creating positive change in the fraternity. What have you built to help promote world peace and further the advancement of Masonic Education?
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Post by rembrandt on Oct 14, 2012 3:11:56 GMT
Knowing that I am not welcome, I didn't hang out in that system while others were permitted because they were special but all others would be "clandestine" without special permission. Then there is the double standard of some can and some can't, depends on who covers I guess. I don't care.
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rosecrossmac
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Post by rosecrossmac on Oct 14, 2012 3:31:42 GMT
IChermes, I applied to your group some days ago and have not yet heard a reply. I sent you a PM on Facebook.
You can also email me at joanst.mark@gmail.com
Thank you and Blessings.
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Post by fraariel on Oct 14, 2012 3:47:40 GMT
I like a few Martinist FB groups. I think the majority of them dont require one to be a Martinist either.
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Post by middlepillar on Oct 14, 2012 9:19:51 GMT
Thank you Nathan for your post, this is a really positive response.
MFoL seem to have stumbled across an US Martinist problem of which most of this Forum will have little interest.
All Martinist points of view are of interest to me personally so as long as this thread does not resort to accusations that cannot be proved I will let it continue.
From a UK Martinist perspective and a purely personal point of view I wish that, that visit had never taken place! I will not comment anymore on the subject of the visit.
We will see where this thread goes, it may well be locked but we shall see.
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