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Post by bigdaddyv on Mar 28, 2014 3:42:08 GMT
Hello everyone, I urge all men and women (hopefully soon to be FORMER men and women) of the craft, to take this into consideration.
It is often said that Freemasonry is one of the most benevolent organisations on Earth. I believe I have proof to the contrary, and that Freemasonry is one of the most sinister and deceptive organizations on Earth. For anyone who is familiar with the practice of GEMATRIA, as I'm sure many of you are, consider the following relationship obtained from the online Gematrix calculator according to Hebrew Gematria. Freemasons = 397. Qliphothic Magick = 397.
May I ask why, if Masonry were so benevolent, such a sinister relation is to be had? According to English Gematria, Freemasons = 690. Left-hand path= 690. God Forsaken = 690. The Evil One = 690.
This can all be counter-checked using an online Gematria calculator. For those involved in Rosicruicianism or Thelema, here are some more associations according to English Gematria. Religion of the Beast = 1140. Aleister Crowley = 1140. Rosicrucian Order = 1140.
For further knowledge as to the true purpose and nature of your craft (that word does not deserve to be capitalized) I recommend the book BEHOLD A PALE HORSE by Milton William Cooper
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Post by peter2 on Mar 28, 2014 8:56:55 GMT
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Post by Aslantash on Mar 28, 2014 10:13:39 GMT
Not at all, because he is surely no expert in Classical Hebrew and in the history of the ancient Hebrew alphabet from a scholarly point of view (including Ugaritic, Sabaic, old Phoenician, Palmyrene, Sam'alian, Aramaic and more …). Otherwise he would have known that gematria is only nice fancy, but nothing serious for a thinking man to deduce something from.
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Post by bigdaddyv on Mar 28, 2014 19:13:37 GMT
Please guys, take it from someone who has himself been decieved by the beast. I urge you all to read the chapters Secret Societies and the New World Order and Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion in the book Behold a Pale Horse by Milton William Cooper. The Masons are one front of the Illuminati that you all hear so much about. Please guys you can save yourselves, it's not too late. As for the inevitable 'the Illuminati disbanded in the 1700s', that claim is thoroughly debunked in the book mentioned above. I advise you all to go on YouTube and watch a video entitled The Secret Covenant as well
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Post by peter2 on Mar 28, 2014 20:21:33 GMT
... The Masons are one front of the Illuminati that you all hear so much about. ... I suggest that you park outside any Masonic lodge and watch the brethren going in. Are they the rulers of the world? You might be better to pay more attention to St Paul: For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in heavenly places.
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Post by billmcelligott on Mar 28, 2014 20:24:56 GMT
For more than 25 tears I have issued this challenge.
Forget you tube, forget the web sites that paint Masons as Reptilian blood suckers from another planet.
Find a Mason and examine him see what he does, see what makes him tick.
Come and see me eat and drink with me, talk and understand. find out what makes me tick.
Show me all the evil things that Masons do, show me the evil, show me the evil.
Rhetoric is no proof.
Find the original web master of freemasonrywatch and ask who it was that held out the hand of care to him and his wife. Show me the evil.
The easiest thing in the world is to throw accusations - bring proof and we can debate - in 25 years I have been given no proof.
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Post by billmcelligott on Mar 28, 2014 20:40:10 GMT
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Post by bigdaddyv on Mar 28, 2014 22:09:27 GMT
I am not accusing anyone on this website; most Freemasons are good people. In fact, nearly every Mason I've met is a good guy/girl. I'm saying that I believe you are being mislead. Taking oaths 'on automatic' so to speak, is a very dangerous thing. Take for example, an obligation of the Holy Royal Arch degree. "I Furthermore Promise and Swear, That I will assist a Companion Royal Arch Mason when I see him engaged in any difficulty, and will espouse his cause whether he be right or wrong" Freemasonry promises that it will not interfere with your obligation to God. How, may I ask, does such an oath not violate your obligation to God? You are essentially saying that you will conceal someone guilty of even the most despicable evil because they happen to be a member of the same fraternity as you. Freemasonry says that it will not violate your obligation to God. It does; you are being mislead. I'm sure you are a good person, I am just honestly doing my best to help. In regards to Bill Cooper, in his book he urges everyone to find as much negative information on him as they can, and then to read his book and see if your opinions are influenced. As for the Mark Dice link, I'll check it out. For further enlightenment, here is a link revealing who JAHBULON truly is: www.islamicparty.com/satvoices/unmasking.htm (one of the princes of Hell from the Lesser Key of Solomon)
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Post by peter2 on Mar 29, 2014 1:23:52 GMT
...Take for example, an obligation of the Holy Royal Arch degree. "I Furthermore Promise and Swear, That I will assist a Companion Royal Arch Mason when I see him engaged in any difficulty, and will espouse his cause whether he be right or wrong" .. That is not in my ritual. Do you have a link to a ritual where we can see this? You do not do your cause any good by recycling fake quotes. It makes me wonder what you know.
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Post by peter2 on Mar 29, 2014 1:26:20 GMT
More rubbish I am afraid. The meaning of the word is lost to mainstream Masonry but can be easily found by any who read the Sumerian mythology.
Abraham was from Sumer!
(It is a triple word as might be expected by Companions)
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Post by billmcelligott on Mar 29, 2014 10:51:53 GMT
JAHBULON is not used in UK freemasonry and there have been over the years many discussions on its origin. It seems to have been an attempt to include each of the major religions in one word. As you search you will find many explanations, however the truth is nobody really knows.
We also have to remember that the ritual differs in differnt Countries and it is not universal.
Now there is a clue in that is there not. If there was an iluminatti dictatorship , then would it not the same ritual be forced on all.
Again the truth defies the speculation - each Lodge will have a comittee lets say there are 10 lodge members on the committee - you can guarantee there will be 10 different opinions on how - what and when it is human nature.
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Post by sammy on Mar 29, 2014 13:35:45 GMT
This does seem a bit silly to call freemasonry the ultimate evil because of some number sequencing. If your looking for evil things you find it. You could even say I am the ultimate evil. You could put a mirror down the middle of my full name on both sides to get 666 Samuel 6 Ray 3 | Ray 3 Conley 6 .
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Post by sammy on Mar 29, 2014 15:38:29 GMT
With this reasoning any of us could be the ultimate savior as well.
Samuel C = 7
Bill McE = 7
B Daddyv = 7
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Post by sammy on Mar 29, 2014 16:44:19 GMT
This keeps being brought to mind HAHA! Something funny about this scene though. The suspected witch did actually weigh the same as a duck...
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Post by billmcelligott on Mar 29, 2014 19:35:22 GMT
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Post by bigdaddyv on Mar 30, 2014 5:38:17 GMT
According to my understanding of Gematria, words with the same numerical value are not identical, but they bear some relation to each other. For example, my real name is equivalent in Gematria to 'The Fifth Sign of the Zodiac', which is Leo. I happen to be a Leo. I think it's quit a striking coincidence that in the Holy Bible it is said that saying anything beyond 'Yes' or 'No' comes from the Evil One.
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Post by william on Mar 30, 2014 21:06:01 GMT
Hello everyone, I urge all men and women (hopefully soon to be FORMER men and women) of the craft, to take this into consideration. It is often said that Freemasonry is one of the most benevolent organisations on Earth. I believe I have proof to the contrary, and that Freemasonry is one of the most sinister and deceptive organizations on Earth. For anyone who is familiar with the practice of GEMATRIA, as I'm sure many of you are, consider the following relationship obtained from the online Gematrix calculator according to Hebrew Gematria. Freemasons = 397. Qliphothic Magick = 397. May I ask why, if Masonry were so benevolent, such a sinister relation is to be had? According to English Gematria, Freemasons = 690. Left-hand path= 690. God Forsaken = 690. The Evil One = 690. This can all be counter-checked using an online Gematria calculator. For those involved in Rosicruicianism or Thelema, here are some more associations according to English Gematria. Religion of the Beast = 1140. Aleister Crowley = 1140. Rosicrucian Order = 1140. For further knowledge as to the true purpose and nature of your craft (that word does not deserve to be capitalized) I recommend the book BEHOLD A PALE HORSE by Milton William Cooper Hi bigdaddyvUsing the same system the names 'Jesus' and 'Lucifer' add to the same number ( 444). Some words which add up to 690 are: 690Twitter
You Love
Encounter
In Training
Positive
Functional
Other way
End of Chapter
Intelligence 666Computer
The Watcher
Santa Claus
One Christ
Open hearted
Little Bird
Do Not Panic
Providence
Explaining
A Meeting Place
A Purpose
A Vibration
Significant
Somewhere
A Mixture
A Real Beauty
Time to See
Exact Science 1140 It Is Our Nature
Use Your Freedom
Shine Your Light
Wishful Thinking
I am not so sure things can be read into data of this kind. It is interesting for the fact that words related to each other add up to the same number but it would be inappropriate to assume what you are assuming. There are good and bad folk in all sorts of organisations. In general it is not the organisation which is entirely at fault for this and you would do well to examine the philosophy and stated agenda of any organisation as well as apply a non bias observation of its members before deciding how to best evaluate. I would advise too that you spend some quality time examining the processes by which you came to understand things as you presently do, and what agenda might be behind that which has decided to show Masonry in the particular light you are promoting. 630
New Zealand Internet Educational Hypnagogic To Be Sure The World Eye to Eye Gratitude Symbols Nonsense Awareness Hunters Masonry In Love William
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Post by billmcelligott on Mar 31, 2014 1:30:14 GMT
Hey , we are not promoting anything. If you do not like Freemasonry then move on. If you wish to discuss Freemasonry then that is what this forum ifs for.
Your list has been selected to prove your point, we can show many words that do not follow the point you wish to force. It is a bit like going out to the woodshed for wood and being surprised the place is full of wood.
Masonic = 444 Freemasonry = 834 Brotherhood = 768 Charity = 504 You choose to use the specifis words that natch your thesis. It just does not hold up under scrutiny.
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Post by william on Mar 31, 2014 4:12:03 GMT
Hey , we are not promoting anything. If you do not like Freemasonry then move on. If you wish to discuss Freemasonry then that is what this forum ifs for. Your list has been selected to prove your point, we can show many words that do not follow the point you wish to force. It is a bit like going out to the woodshed for wood and being surprised the place is full of wood. Masonic = 444 Freemasonry = 834 Brotherhood = 768 Charity = 504 You choose to use the specifis words that natch your thesis. It just does not hold up under scrutiny. Correct billmcelligott Some more words which add up to these numbers are: 444Jesus Queenbee Lucifer Habitual Hundred Phasing Simple Between Tarot Fine Line In Detail Beauty Nailed it According Energy English 834Transition Forgiveness Inclinations The Love Heart Gifts to Give 768The Hierarchy 504Coincidence Inalienable Move On Invent Breasts Vampire Accompanied Strange Useful Capture
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Post by sammy on Mar 31, 2014 5:01:47 GMT
HAHA @ Nailed it! Oh, and you totally nailed it!
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