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Post by offramp on Sept 26, 2019 2:40:43 GMT
I am currently Junior Warden of my Lodge. I am therefore positionedI haven't seen this mentioned before anywhere, but for Lodges in the southern hemisphere that should be
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Post by peter2 on Sept 26, 2019 3:22:06 GMT
Well spotted but it is not what it seems. No doubt you remember the strange question for EAs about the sun always being at its meridian with respect to Freemsonry and the nonsensicaL answer. Here is a quote from an initiate in the Isaic Mysteries. Isaic refers to the Widow Isis. "Understand that I approached the bounds of death, I trod the threshold of Proserpine, and after that I was ravished through all the elements, I returned to my proper place; about midnight I saw the sun brightly shine; I saw likewise the gods celestial and the gods infernal, before whom I presented myself and worshiped them." www.sacred-texts.com/cla/pr/pr09.htmNote that the sun brightly shone at midnight. The modern version is that the sun is always at its meridian. The simple solution is that the candidate for the 3rd degree was driven out of his body by chanting and taken out into the solar system where the sun was shining brightly at midnight. And the candidate was introduced to various gods celestial and infernal (in the underworld). Having returned to his proper place (physical body) he had no fear of death. The modern 3rd degree is a partial representation of what the Sons of Light used to accomplish. The Sufis also know of the sun at midnight www.goodreads.com/book/show/437254.The_Sun_At_Midnight
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Post by offramp on Sept 26, 2019 9:28:25 GMT
That is a fascinating post. Many thanks.
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Post by jet144 on Sept 27, 2019 15:00:11 GMT
In the thread in this section called "Freemasonry & The Occult" I added a link to a peculiar quasi-masonic self-initiation ceremony. After the ceremony, there is given detailed notes about key elements of the ceremony. The notes talk about how King Solomon's Temple was located on Mount Zion, and that Mount Zion is located in the "far north," under the Polestar, at the north pole.
At that location, for the sun to be high above us, at meridian height, we would have to be in the south.
I gave it some thought. At the poles, there is 6 months of darkness and 6 month of light. Half the year is dark and half is light. In the lodge, half of it is dark and half is light. The dark half is the North and West. The light half is the East and South.
The link also talks about how King Solomon is the Canaanite's version of Osiris, that Solomon is the old Semitic god of the setting sun and also of the netherworld (the realm of the afterlife).
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Post by peter2 on Sept 27, 2019 21:24:40 GMT
As you know there is little to no archeological evidence of King Solomon's temple or even of his empire. So, if we assume that KS existed then it was in another place or another time or both. As it happens Anatoly Fomenko, an important Russian mathematician, has written 7 volumes on his statistical analysis of recorded history and concluded that much of it is fake. Here is the first vol chronologia.org/en/seven/chronology1.htmlIt seems that Solomon the Great is indistinguishable in qualities and actions from Suleiman the Magnificent. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suleiman_the_MagnificentIf so the temple of KS still exists. You will have already noted that the name KS does not appear in the earliest Bibles. For example the Canticle of Canticles (Song of Songs) is later renamed as the Song of Solomon. The North Pole reference is interesting as Holy Arch (the God of Millions of Years) is called such because He was thought to have come from the Pole Star - around which the arch of the heavens rotates. This belief is continued in the rituals of Operative Masons. The North Pole is directly below the Pole Star so metaphorically an important place spiritually. Holy Arch is known in the Old Testament as El Elyon. El comes from the Sumerian Ilu - meaning both tall and a god. Abraham was from Sumer. Thus El Elyon can be reasonably translated as the "god of gods" or as "tall of the tall ones". We normally refer to him as "the Most High". And thus we know how ancient peoples recognized the gods. They were very tall. The titans were titanic - reputedly growing to 300 feet. See: www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/irl/index.htmOsiris is recorded as only 17 feet tall. Perhaps he was still growing.
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Post by peter2 on Sept 27, 2019 21:31:43 GMT
>Canaanite's version of Osiris Arguably there was only one set of gods at a time - until they were displaced by time or war in the heavens. That set of gods went everywhere and thereby the various gods had different names in different places. Zecharia Sitchin provides a pretty good proof of this. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecharia_SitchinIn some traditions, Osiris and Isis founded Freemasonry. Here they are founding China with Square and Compasses - looking like serpents. Isis was often depicted as a serpent and Osiris with scales.
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Post by jet144 on Sept 28, 2019 1:18:16 GMT
The Holy Arch info is very interesting Peter! I've never heard of the Holy Arch as being a deity. I've only heard of Holy Royal Arch.
It would make sense then that El Elyon is from the Polestar, because Mount Zion is the axis of the world located under the Polestar, according to that zine.
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