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Post by peter2 on Nov 30, 2019 23:16:01 GMT
>that spiritual supermarket garbage that you've been reading
I was writing about my personal experience and relating that to much older traditions
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Post by luciicul on Dec 4, 2019 18:09:46 GMT
I don't base my knowledge base on what other people tell me what to think. I base it on personal experiences. I study the text and it's impact because I'm in it. I'm not in it because I study it. I meant obscure as in a purposeful attempt to hide identity. Some people do that purposefully regardless of their awareness.
You ever dream about houses ? How do you tell the difference between a literal house and a house as a bethel of a person ? Doors. Doors in a person don't always open. Doors in a literal house you can just fly through living or dead in a spiritual state of being.
Timelines work like a slide rule. There's actually only one timeline. Like degrees in a circle you can put as many as you would like but what makes it relative ? Constancy. Time doesn't have relativity to physics. Physics creates relativity to time. Time is wholly abstract like eudaemonic states. It's a choice of relative manifestation. Not the most positive defining quality but ask any disabled person if they've ever felt like their body is a prison because they are aware they are more than just physical in being. I left the ICU because I decided I had things I wanted to do that was not in line with the doctor's plans. Two time lines and I chose something not in their plans. Very basic but it is what it is. I'm not done asking exactly what is the protocol/procedure for a non-mason to petition masonry on a specific nature of question of personally consenting rights relative to a text. Relative to it's context there's no other logical group to ask. It's not personally directed to any one person. No want of another's possessions or position. It wouldn't matter what time it is. The question and intent does not change. Not the only thing I want to do, just high on my choice of priority. God doesn't ask for living sacrifices. People do. God does not create paradoxes. People do. I choose to do something about it. There are no coincidences. God will make it right.
2211.....If you were in my shoes who would you address with my question, curiously ?
Luciicul
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Post by peter2 on Dec 4, 2019 20:10:30 GMT
>who would you address with my question
It does not seem to me that you are able to control your thoughts. If this is true then it is likely not your question but an implanted question.
Even if your experiences are not artificial, there is no one I have met in Freemasonry in 45 years that could relate to them.
The test of whether an experience is real or artificial is whether the five electricities are present. The five electricities bring the seven planes into existence.
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Post by luciicul on Dec 4, 2019 22:32:29 GMT
Lightning struck me brain.......
Ok, I'm assuming you are going by second Solomon which has no relevance to what I'm talking about. Not to be disrespectful but if we went back to a previous conversation about a time prior to second Solomon maybe I should tell you a little piece of truth you don't know. Relative to the issue about Hades, Hephaestas and Helios.......I never said who it was. Not once. So I ask who is the one whom cannot think for themselves ? Did it occur to you to ask me if what you were told was true ? Did it occur to you to ask if other women were also treated in the same manner ? There's no platonic solids in that. Have you noticed I'm right here to ask ? I'm not offended but maybe you could see me as a person and not someone else's non-experiental opinion.
Luci
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Post by peter2 on Dec 4, 2019 22:39:34 GMT
>assuming you are going by second Solomon
The reference escapes me. The only two Solomons that I know are Solomon the Great and Suleiman the Magnificient both of which are related to the (Cheerful) Rose.
>previous conversation about a time prior to second Solomon > issue about Hades, Hephaestas and Helios >what you were told was true >other women were also treated in the same manner
Those references escape me
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Post by luciicul on Dec 6, 2019 2:57:31 GMT
Now you're manipulating the conversation and cannot remember previous conversations, whether selectively or not....I cannot say. However if it's an honest error Leucothea, aka Leuce....same conversation. I didn't say what you were told was true. I said did it occur to you to ask me if what you were told was true. Masonry is older than second Solomon. I do know a few things. I was making a point about possibly not everything you've been told is truth.
Have you ever been introduced to the concept of parallel Word architecture and paradox ? I'll give you my two best living examples to now. I'd like to say it occurs because of the Word architecture and ELS codes.....but I actually think it's a combination of what is written and the power of manifestation by mass belief.
First example......the not so positive..... When I was a kid a got a nail square in the middle of my head. As an ELS it's listed as John 19. Not only did I get a nail in my head, at church, which pulled the nail out of the table but other things have manifested as well. The most recent in a Phi equal distance from my big toes on both feet I woke up one morning with sores with no other known cause. Things like that.
Second example......Matthew 1......not the ancestry record but everything else is very accurate. I can say that because I had said experience. The only difference being the name given was different. That's in the ELS as well. I asked him not to show up. I didn't want to participate in the known potential abuse. Ultimately, I have to trust in God.
Maybe you don't know as much as you think, but you could understand more if you listened.
Still doesn't answer my question, which I did decide to ask another response to my question. If you're not interested in two way conversation that's your choice. Don't talk to others like I don't exist in my line of question and expect to be respected for it. If you honestly want to know why I have PTSD ask or shut up.
Luci
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Post by peter2 on Dec 7, 2019 23:57:07 GMT
Spiritual oppression is conducted across many lives. Recently with a woman I knew well, I inwardly saw a large group of Lemurian black magicians that had been oppressing her across the ages. When I first met her she said her life was a tragedy - even though it looked fine to outsiders. So I pointed out the group of magicians and she could see them easily. I asked who she could recognize. She saw her best friend from university and her first husband. I could see them both out towards the edge of the group. And there, close to the center of the group, in the second row was her current husband - with whom she has a somewhat ambivalent relationship, he having been her apparent protector in past lives. And she did not mention that her current husband was in the group, but not long after largely cut off contact with me - telling an acquaintance that it had become too traumatic. Such is the nature of spiritual oppression: oppressors often include the parents, siblings, partners and offspring. The oppressors are usually unaware of their role, in part because none of those I have observed has the ability to control its thoughts, thus being easily manipulated by non-incarnate entities. The non-incarnate entities, being able to control many humans, have little trouble in orchestrating unlikely physical plane events. Physical and psychological injury are widely used to prevent the escape of the target human.
The non-incarnate entities often emphasize the specialness of the human asset, and may explain that the difficulties encountered by the human are a necessary trade-off. I know one such who has quite intrusive emotional skills and who takes some delight in using those skills to restructure emotionally abusive humans. This man knows that he has not progressed spiritually, over some decades, even using the term "ground hog day" when I prodded him on this. He still regards non-progress as a fair exchange for his spectacular ability to disable emotionally abusive humans.
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Post by Quin on Dec 9, 2019 22:08:35 GMT
Spiritual oppression is conducted across many lives. Recently with a woman I knew well, I inwardly saw a large group of Lemurian black magicians that had been oppressing her across the ages. When I first met her she said her life was a tragedy - even though it looked fine to outsiders. So I pointed out the group of magicians and she could see them easily. I asked who she could recognize. She saw her best friend from university and her first husband. I could see them both out towards the edge of the group. And there, close to the center of the group, in the second row was her current husband - with whom she has a somewhat ambivalent relationship, he having been her apparent protector in past lives. And she did not mention that her current husband was in the group, but not long after largely cut off contact with me - telling an acquaintance that it had become too traumatic. Such is the nature of spiritual oppression: oppressors often include the parents, siblings, partners and offspring. The oppressors are usually unaware of their role, in part because none of those I have observed has the ability to control its thoughts, thus being easily manipulated by non-incarnate entities. The non-incarnate entities, being able to control many humans, have little trouble in orchestrating unlikely physical plane events. Physical and psychological injury are widely used to prevent the escape of the target human. The non-incarnate entities often emphasize the specialness of the human asset, and may explain that the difficulties encountered by the human are a necessary trade-off. I know one such who has quite intrusive emotional skills and who takes some delight in using those skills to restructure emotionally abusive humans. This man knows that he has not progressed spiritually, over some decades, even using the term "ground hog day" when I prodded him on this. He still regards non-progress as a fair exchange for his spectacular ability to disable emotionally abusive humans. Hey, I think you should probably chill out and not get so sucked into the dramaturgy. It's like Shakespeare said "all the world's a stage". Maybe you should probably get a pair of those Deepak glass and learn to relax. youtu.be/8lM2FEQ9-FM
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Post by peter2 on Dec 10, 2019 0:01:27 GMT
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. - Hamlet (1.5.167-8)
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