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Post by a on Aug 2, 2005 21:00:17 GMT
Taylorsman, perhpas you may be kind enough to try to relate what I am saying here in electronic terms (if it is possible), as this may help understanding by some.
Take your average human being. Full of energy. Literally at the quantum level, and at the physical level, it shows through in walking, loving, hurting, etc. Most humans don't really underastand this aspect of their lives as they are too caught up with fears, what ifs, the boss, commuting, etc.
On their own each human wanders around, achieving what they can, living life.
But if you take a step out of life, and become able to view life more as an onlooker, you can see that these humans, the energies, don't always work that well together.
Now there is nothing in itself wrong with how they work.
But if the energies can be refined (eg by using the tools of Freemasonry or the Martial Arts) then an element of balance is achieved, and instead of fragmented wasted energies cancelling each other out, you get a more unified, powerful, effective, mutually beneficial result. It just works better.
Better for everyone, even those who fear such communication and balance the most, for they also loose the previous counterproductive strains on their system, and as a result have a stronger, more powerful future, with far less risk of failure.
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Post by hollandr on Aug 2, 2005 22:11:32 GMT
Stewart
As you will have noted the human constantly exchanges physical substance with the environment. This also happens on emotional and mental levels and particularly between humans and related entities.
So that the human is not as individual or separable as he or she might believe.
Cheers
Russell
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Post by atarnaris on Sept 5, 2005 18:14:54 GMT
Indeed. Which makes of prime importance the proper selection of the individuals that comprise a Lodge...
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Post by hollandr on Sept 5, 2005 22:25:44 GMT
Andrew
Arguably each human is a lodge in him or herself - being a more or less integrated community of energies and intelligences from the various steps of Jacob's Ladder. Hence my first task on incarnation is to "get my act together" so that I can focus my physical, emotional and mental instincts on required tasks.
Once I get my act together I may have "integrity" (literally one-ness)
Cheers
Russell
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Post by maat on Sept 5, 2005 23:35:58 GMT
But if you take a step out of life, and become able to view life more as an onlooker, you can see that these humans, the energies, don't always work that well together. Now there is nothing in itself wrong with how they work. But if the energies can be refined (eg by using the tools of Freemasonry or the Martial Arts) then an element of balance is achieved, and instead of fragmented wasted energies canceling each other out, you get a more unified, powerful, effective, mutually beneficial result. It just works better. Better for everyone, even those who fear such communication and balance the most, for they also loose the previous counterproductive strains on their system, and as a result have a stronger, more powerful future, with far less risk of failure. Stewart - your post brings to mind the twelve signs of the Zodiac - representing the twelve basic temperaments of man ( the twelve tribes of Israel). These signs are sometimes depicted in a circular fashion which would indicate an interaction between them. Sometimes you will find 6 on one side and 6 on the other - again and indication of interaction. At the centre of the circle (of the Zodiac) you have the point (the source) If you intersect the zodiac when in the other configuration you would find that it also has a source point. For me this indicates that to evolve - you must have movement and resistance. Movement is self explanatory and resistance is necessary for the development of our minds, our will, our strength...etc The different types of people represented by the Zodiac are all equal - just different - and necessarily so for the mutual advancement of all. (Bullies included). AT - I think a good reputation is enough. If you become too selective you run the risk of not 'completing the circle'.
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Post by a on Sept 6, 2005 0:53:29 GMT
Maat
I can see and understand your reasoning.
To me it seems like over the past few thousand years the human race has advanced so far (technologically), yet progressed so little (in terms of humanity).
Perhaps the human race should have been able to reach a stage of evolution where bullies were not required or necessary, by now? Perhaps our current level of imbalance is a result of this?
Though equally I accept that bullies can aid personal evolution, for they certainly do cause a lot of internal work to be done. Albeit by their victims. Those that are not destroyed in this life by them, that is.
Interestingly enough, to me anyway, a good part of a book that I have written is all about this very issue. But no it has not been published yet.
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Post by a on Sept 6, 2005 1:00:21 GMT
I will go further.
Bullies are hindering the human race in its evolution.
This is one element of Darkness that I am utterly convinced that our planet does not need at this time.
Fortunately within each and every bully, is also the spark of compassion, of sensitivity, of caring. Once bullies are forced to face themselves, these sparks can ignite and flame, and in turn they can become illuminated. Then they will enjoy real "power" (I do dislike that word). Until then it will evade them.
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Post by hollandr on Sept 6, 2005 3:21:13 GMT
>Fortunately within each and every bully, is also the spark of compassion
Stewart,
There is a most interesting book called "Spirit releasement therapy : a technique manual' by a dentist William Baldwin who discovered while hypnotising dental patients that many had entities attached to them. And he discovered a technique of asking the entities if they had any spark of light inside them. Most did. Once they looked at the light within they changed behaviour.
He also found that many entities were hosts to other entities who were in turn hosts to other entities.
A valuable book
Cheers
Russell
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Post by maat on Sept 6, 2005 3:28:19 GMT
Stewart - Have you ever considered that the world is just as it should be - an obstacle course (or University) for souls?
We pass through the gates (Pillars) of this 'University' keen, ambitious and quite ignorant of just how much we don't know - after much tutoring, hard work and 'exams' we graduate as bright and shining stars..... hopefully giving forth enough light to show the next intake the way.
You may wish to take a look at my post in the Pillars thread re the Labors of Hercules....(free book included).
Maat
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Post by a on Sept 6, 2005 6:45:24 GMT
Stewart - Have you ever considered that the world is just as it should be - an obstacle course (or University) for souls? Indeed. However the obstacle course, to use your analogy, is so weak through neglect that it is now so out of balance, that a serious correction may be required, which would level the obstacles, ready for rebuilding again. But again perhaps that is the way that it is meant to be. If so it does not explain why I am here trying to do some maintenance work. Perhaps some of the users of the course have misused the obstacles? Or perhaps I am just going through a crisis? Or perhaps when I read the instruction manuals, the fact that they accord with my own inner knowledge is mere coincidence? And perhaps it is part of the Divine plan for me to be here, at this moment in time, believing what I believe, feeling what I feel, for our world? This obstacle course is such a mental gymnasium. One which only a couple of years ago I could not make any sense of beyond the harsh rough untreated exterior. More directly, yes I have spend hundreds of hours, if not thousands considering this issue. My heart tells me that if the human race can't show some real compassion pretty quickly, Mother Nature is likely to step in and give us a nudge. Could be a flood, or similar, of biblical proportions. Or perhaps Sekhmet will be sent back amongst us? Who knows? Or, as I say, perhaps I am just a little mad. But time will tell.
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Post by maat on Sept 6, 2005 22:46:02 GMT
Stewart - no-one can do more than follow their hearts and intuitions. And I agree with you that once that stage of evolution is reached where we 'really' feel for the welfare of our fellow man - it is very hard to maintain our balance. I guess this is why we are exhorted to have faith and hope that the great Architect loves us so much that his plan for our evolution is perfect. It is just that in our present state we find it hard to understand.
With regard to the natural global upheavals: As Stewart said..
"As you will have noted the human constantly exchanges physical substance with the environment. This also happens on emotional and mental levels and particularly between humans and related entities.
So that the human is not as individual or separable as he or she might believe."
I do believe we have an impact upon our environment in a non physical sense which can result in natural upheavals, etc.
Cheers Maat
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Post by hollandr on Sept 6, 2005 23:17:18 GMT
Maat
Are you telling us that we get the weather we deserve?
Cheers
Russell
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Post by Yoki on Sept 7, 2005 10:10:48 GMT
Stewart wrote--- If so it does not explain why I am here trying to do some maintenance work.
This brings to mind what a channelled entity replied to my questioning regarding Co Free Masonry. When I asked if their work was effective he replied yes its not play acting they are maintenance workers.
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Post by maat on Sept 7, 2005 23:37:45 GMT
Yoki - I know! Warning - for all earth bound readers - you may find the following news item disturbing ;D A non catholic but very devout acquaintance of mine was telling me about an 'other worldly' experience she had in which she posed several unresolved questions which were on her mind. One of them was "do the Carmelite orders (the silent contemplative orders) do any good at all?" She had the opinion that they were among the shirkers of the world. They would be better off out and doing something. The answer came that they were one of the most powerful agents for good in the world! Just goes to show - we can work wonders where-ever we are. Maat
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Post by a on Sept 8, 2005 6:38:21 GMT
Indeed. In fact it may be easier to perform energy work from a place where physical distractions are minimised. Much easier.
Regardless of your path, it is all about relaxation, finding the silence in your mind, then you can connect. Not easy to do. But quite possible, whether, for example in a Dojo or in a Hermetic Order. But also I would imagine possible in bed, in a few moments by a coffee machine in a busy office, and I would imagine, much much easier if you are seculded away from the everyday pressures of our world.
For those immersed in the pressures of life, quality Dojos and Lodges are a Godsend.
You could argue that life only really begins once you can begin to comprehend energy. And the tools to gain such understanding are all around and within each and every one of us. Ready waiting, for when we become ready.
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Post by a on Sept 8, 2005 6:54:11 GMT
In fact one of the biggest suprises that I had with Freemasonry a couple of years back was to find that the branch of Freemasonry which appears to be least aware and least utilising of their inherent Lodge tools in this regard is UGLE-amity.
Perhaps such Lodge level energy awareness is one reason why the Landscape of Freemasonry has been changing in our world for some time now.
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Post by a on Sept 8, 2005 6:59:55 GMT
I mean, imagine those Lodges, where when you enter, you enter an oasis of calm. A place where you can feel calming energy flow, where you become revitilised, where you feel connected with nature, even perhaps for only a moment, where you can take a further step on your journey to know yourself, where you gain support and understanding, where you evolve a little more. Dare I say where you become a little more illuminated.
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Post by a on Sept 8, 2005 7:04:22 GMT
Final thought. For the moment.
In UGLE, GQS, as you know I have felt various energies.
1. The small ex GS office which is now a Lodge, with large paintings on the wall. Very positive energies. A lot of good work has been done in there over the years.
2. In the Egyptian and several other lodges - nothing, blandness.
3. In a corridor, extremely negative energies.
All in the same building.
Could I suggest that if UGLE were to get its chaps in (who understand such things) to harmonise the energies in GQS, that it may enjoy a brighter future.
Only a thought.
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Post by taylorsman on Sept 8, 2005 9:25:53 GMT
The corridor, negative? There is a statue of the Duke of Sussex there, the First GM of UGLE after the Union and to my mind the culprit for much of the damage done to English Freemasonry and a sworn enemy of the Higher and more Esoteric Degrees. I wonder if his presence is the reason for these bad vibes? Next time I am there I will have to see if I pick anything up in that location in FMH.
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Post by a on Sept 8, 2005 9:38:36 GMT
Taylorsman
It is my experience, that when you go looking you can try to hard. It may be better just to enter with a relaxed open mind and feel your way around. See if you can sense any changes as you move from place to place. If you do feel any unusual changes, for example, tingling, experiment. Casually walk around and see if it is strongest at one spot or area, a bit like the gausian techniques of SETI, and always look for open windows, draughts etc, that could ofer a mundane explanation.
I have had an amusing time in museums over the past couple of years doing this, which I have been told is what true dowsing is.
If you develop an abilty for it (and there are books and people here who can help you) you find that you identify patterns that you pick up. For me the two main places that I can sometimes feel, is in Lodges and in regard to specific Ancient Egyptian artifacts. I have travelled museums testing this, trying to work out connections between objects. The trouble is soon after I first mentioned this on forums, one museum took an exhibit off display, and another loaned another to a US museum. Which has hindered my research a little.
But as I said above, the harder I try, the poorer the results. It is best just to be natural, and in time you will feel finer and finer energies.
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