giovanni
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Post by giovanni on Sept 27, 2005 12:35:09 GMT
The initiatory proceedings is aimed to the rebirth of a new man. The cathedrals were conceived as a "womb", wherein the newbie could be fed and grow up. The feature of some catholic churches, such as Milan's Dom, is therefore the "black sun": a new life is always prepared in the darkness.
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Post by staffs on Sept 27, 2005 17:26:30 GMT
Rabbi Ishamel said :
All the Companions (THE INITIATED) liken it to a man who has a ladder in the midst of his house wherebyhe can ascend and descend without anyone to prevent him.
Blessed art thou Lord God, Who knowest all secrets and art the Lord of hidden things.
Pirke Hekalot,Babylonia,6th Century
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Post by hollandr on Sept 27, 2005 23:15:25 GMT
>All the Companions (THE INITIATED) liken it to a man who has a ladder in the midst of his house wherebyhe can ascend and descend without anyone to prevent him.
Staffs
That is depicted on the EA TB but who is it who puts it into practice?
Most brethren I know think the EA TB is symbolic
Cheers
Russell
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Post by maat on Sept 28, 2005 3:30:35 GMT
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Post by Thegnostic on Oct 10, 2005 17:53:08 GMT
Brethren All,
Very intersting subject. IMHO Initiation results in the total upliftment of one`s Being or Consciousness. You become a Pillar of the Lodge so it is incumbent on the Initiate to reciprocate to others so all members achieve a common state of mind. When the whole have the same inner motivation the Invisible always facilitate access to the world of ideas and symbols which, individually, it would be much more difficult to enter. You will never attain this in the UGLE.
One does not "give" an initiation, one "transmits" it. One cannot give what one does not possess. Transmission of Initiation could compare to a relay race where the baton is passed on from one to another. T.B.C...
Gnostic "There is nothing more easy than to come to the gate of truth; there is nothing more difficult than to enter it. This applies to most of the wise of this world"
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Post by a on Oct 10, 2005 19:31:10 GMT
When the whole have the same inner motivation the Invisible always facilitate access to the world of ideas and symbols which, individually, it would be much more difficult to enter. You will never attain this in the UGLE. Pity, the collective power of UGLE could be so.... well what is the word that I am looking for here.....enlightening. Gnostic you may be suprised this is achievable in UGLE, within your lifetime, with good progress being made in only a few years. And I suspect that you know deep within you how it could be achieved, though you may need to think on it for a while. Perhaps one day I will put you and a whole load of other Freemasons in a room and show you how to get the ball rolling. Do you think that the Grand Officers (by which I mean honourific ranks) could cope with me opening their hearts a little more? One also has to be receptive to it, and in essence that means having prepared yourself properly in your heart. Without this essential step everything else is without foundation, and decisively wobbly.
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Post by Thegnostic on Oct 12, 2005 21:19:52 GMT
Hi Giovanni, The cathedrals were conceived as a womb
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Post by mrmason on Oct 12, 2005 22:09:32 GMT
Hi Gnostic, I read this book (GeneISIS),sometime ago, and to be truthfull, (as I've said to you not that long ago) it may take me some time to get my head around it all. Still persistance is my middle name:)
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