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Post by staffs on Nov 8, 2004 20:36:38 GMT
Whistler posted on a previous thread in relation to Shotokan and Themed lodges :
The light is begining to dawn How do theme lodges begin, like this one that is only a couple of years old.
Do Bro, in an existing lodge , realise they have something in common and go off and start another lodge, Do they still attend their mother lodge. Do they have to start from scratch with regalia, furniture and premisies. Does the new theme lodge have any financial link back to the mother lodges of the founders
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Post by staffs on Nov 8, 2004 20:46:37 GMT
No /it can only be moved to another board .Sorry but cannot move posts to a topic on the same board.
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Post by staffs on Nov 8, 2004 20:48:59 GMT
Lester from Shotokan Lodge wrote :
Brethren and fellow Forumites.
Many thanks for the kind words you have said about the Shotokan Karate Lodge.
There is no need for me to explain any further, Stash, Jumile, Doric and Leonardo have all coined it up.
We are extremely proud to have formed this Lodge 2 years ago with, in the main, Brethren who have a connection with Martial Arts in general but Shotokan karate in particular. We are not a closed Lodge by any means. We accept members / initiate candidates whether their interest lies in this field or not.
We are members primarily for Freemasonry.
We do have a few quirks which relate to our Art unique to our Lodge. I am currently Master of this Lodge and extremely proud to be so.
Leonardo. I am beginning to think there is a conspiracy against me. Last Thursday at my herts Lodge - Daneswood - one of the members was appointed secretary. He has known me for at least 13 years and he called me Leslie! Closer than Sylvester or is it?
Comments please.
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Post by Seeker on Nov 8, 2004 21:04:31 GMT
No /it can only be moved to another board .Sorry but cannot move posts to a topic on the same board. In that case just keep up the good work
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Post by Sensei on Nov 9, 2004 0:20:13 GMT
Whistler posted on a previous thread in relation to Shotokan and Themed lodges : Do Bro, in an existing lodge , realise they have something in common and go off and start another lodge, Do they still attend their mother lodge. Do they have to start from scratch with regalia, furniture and premisies. Does the new theme lodge have any financial link back to the mother lodges of the founders Let's answer your points one at a time. It may be that a group of people who have something in common realise that they have Masonry in common too - but it's a lot stronger than that. In our case, a few of the Brethren had got together to discuss the probability of forming the Lodge. It was discovered by word of mouth that there were more martial Artists etc who were also Masons than originally thought. The formation was then put into motion and 1-2 years down the line the Lodge was consecrated. It is worthy to note that with the formation of any Lodge, that it should not be detrimental to another in its consecration. Our Lodge was made up of 40 founders from different Lodges, Provinces etc and therefore should not have had an adverse impact on the Members' other Lodges. None of the Founders left a Lodge to form this one. We did start from scratch with regard to furniture - some of it anyway. At Freemason's Hall when you hire the Temple certain furniture is supplied. Other things you need to buy / acquire etc. This can be done by including it in the Founders Fee / donations / buying second hand. Some of our items were donated by the Members and a full list is available on the website. There is no 'financial' link back to the Mother Lodges of the Brethren or indeed the Sponsoring Lodge, but I must admit, I don't know where you're coming from on this. A little more explanation would help as to what you mean.
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Post by taylorsman on Nov 9, 2004 0:37:50 GMT
In previous times Themed Lodges could be Old School Lodges, there are still several, Councillors Lodges, my own Mother Lodge 5223 was one, Regimental Lodges. There were also professions and trades. Taurus was for Butchers etc, Galen for Medical men, "Pride of" is usually a Policemens Lodge , and there are Chartered Accountants and other such professions which have a Lodge associated with them. When I worked for a bus company in Brigton I asked a few Freemasons in that Industry if they would like to form a Themed Lodge and suggested we called it "Pax Omnibus" but nothing came of it.
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Post by Seeker on Nov 9, 2004 1:01:42 GMT
Sensei, The answer is I don't know were I am coming from, in this regard. I am just getting a handle around theme Lodges which I think is great, I my comment re the financial link was when I was wondering how the new lodge reported back to UGLE, ie directly or via the Mother Lodge. However your most excellant answer which explains the above. I think you should be very proud to start a new lodge well done. Just a couple of extra questions if I may ask. The special little quirks (I don't ask any detail) are they in ritual, and or dress code Did you have to get approval from UGLE for the quirks. Now you have been in existance for 2 years, are you getting any new members for whom Shotokan is their mother Lodge
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Post by Doric on Nov 9, 2004 8:35:47 GMT
The themed Lodge would have no financial links back to its sponsoring Lodge. It would "report" along exactly the same lines - that is to say direct to its Province & thence to UGLE, in exactly the same way as any other daughter Lodge. The furniture would, to an wextent, be have to be purchased or borrowed, and in UGLEland, regalia above the rank of FC is the responsibility of the individual
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Post by taylorsman on Nov 9, 2004 8:49:10 GMT
"regalia above the rank of FC is the responsibility of the individual "
Not the likes of the Officers Collars, WM's Collar , the Gauntlets etc unless the Founder Members buy those of the Offices they will be filling to get the Lodge started.
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Post by Doric on Nov 9, 2004 9:03:34 GMT
Very true - it must be too early for my tiny brain to function effectively
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Post by Sensei on Nov 9, 2004 14:12:44 GMT
Seeker,
You certainly live up to your name.
Our quirks, like any other Lodge, do not necessarily need permission of UGLE in as much as the Lodge belongs to the Members and therefore a private Lodge. The 'quirks' do not by any means contravene any rules and regs laid down in BoC etc.
We make use of the karate Gi - uniform - for the ceremonies and the Candidate, if a practicing Martial Artist, may wear his own obi - belt!
A form of acknowledgement may well be heard outside of the ceremonial duties of Officers (and when I'm not concentrating , along with others - sometimes in it!).
Our dress code is exactly the same as all other Masons, however, I can be very proud to state, that at the consecration of our lodge, subsequent meetins and Festive Boards, I have worn my Black Belt throughout! I hope in many years to come, long after I attend the GL above, another Brother will continue to wear my belt in the same manner I have so far! I can dream...
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Post by whistler on Nov 9, 2004 17:36:04 GMT
Thank you Bro. You have chased away the darkness
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Post by Sensei on Nov 10, 2004 11:18:38 GMT
Whistler, you are most welcome.
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Post by staffs on Nov 12, 2004 17:42:22 GMT
There is a bit of a themed showbusiness lodge that is Chelsea lodge and they have many showbusiness brethren.
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Post by Jumile on Nov 14, 2004 12:58:07 GMT
I remember hearing a while back that there is a lodge populated by mostly politicians. Can't remember what's it's called, but it's obviously a London lodge. I also discovered the following on the excellent UK Mason List today: Telephone Lodge L3301
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Post by staffs on Nov 14, 2004 13:11:11 GMT
And there are a lot of policeman in different guises at the lodge i visited last Saturday, Jerry ??
But lodges will go through a stage where people of a particular profession bring in brothers from their own particular field and then there is trend reversal later when other professions /trades join and the wheel then turns another circle.
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Post by taylorsman on Nov 14, 2004 16:07:01 GMT
Jumile, that may be New Welcome which has MPs as Members and meets at FMH as far as I know.
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Post by waynecowley on Nov 14, 2004 19:35:45 GMT
Jumile, that may be New Welcome which has MPs as Members and meets at FMH as far as I know. As far as I am aware there is only one current MP in membership at the moment. I think he went into the Chair earlier this month (this Friday perhaps) Wayne
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Post by taylorsman on Nov 14, 2004 20:09:00 GMT
Would that be Tony Baldry MP by any chance? I think his is a Grand Officer.
In the past we had the likes of Sir Neil Thorne, currently PGM of Essex, David Trippier, William Whitelaw, to name but a few. Winston Churchill was a Freemason but not a particularly active one as far as I am aware.
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