Tony Grimwood
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Post by Tony Grimwood on Sept 10, 2007 7:07:49 GMT
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Post by niggs13 on Sept 10, 2007 12:10:25 GMT
Many thanks for the thread Tony, this is how I interpret 'the more hidden mysteries of nature and science' . Nigel
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Y Mahomed
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Post by Y Mahomed on Sept 10, 2007 15:45:00 GMT
sounds spacey ;D
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Post by maat on Sept 11, 2007 0:00:32 GMT
Isn't it refreshing to hear of even more physicists coming up with the same answers as the great ones of the Mystery Schools of the ages!
The first thing that jumped out at me in this article is that, at one point in his life, the physicist author dismissed what the Bible had to say because it was not possible to have light (Let there be Light) before the Sun, the moon and the stars were created. I am surprised that he did not consider for a moment, and as a scientist, that these may be lesser lights, composed of the greater light.
What do our rituals tell us? The Sun, the Moon and the Stars are messengers... (lesser)..
F=Ma E=Mc2
Force/Mass/Acceleration Energy/Mass/Speed of light
As the article pointed "The laws of relativity are clear on this point. If you ride a beam of light as an observer, all of space would shrink to a point, and all of time would collapse to an instant. In the reference frame of light, there is no space and time."
Here we are left with an image in our minds of a point within a circle, yes/no?
This is what we are told about life after death. In spirit, there is no space and time. Is that shrinking to a point an explanation for the near death experience of speeding through a tunnel towards the light?
Itzhak Bentov wrote a great book on the topic of vibration and consciousness called Stalking the Wild Pendulum. His work was said to be very near to complete accuracy (by those that know) before his untimely death in a plane crash.
He said: "When something moves so fast that it uses almost no time for its movement then it moves at an almost infinite speed, and when something is going so fast, then it must be present at all places at once."
Omnipresence.
If you are in all places at once, you can know all things
Omniscience
If you know all things..
Omnipotence.
We are informed that we can achieve all the above by looking for this light ourselves ... and our rituals tell us how to do this.
Maat
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Post by maat on Sept 11, 2007 0:06:28 GMT
From something I posted some time ago in "Secrets of Science and Nature" thread As Freemasons we are interested in Pythagoras and Plato - right? So read on Freemasons/Builders all ... "Thus he then classified living creatures into genera and species, and divided them in every way until he came to their elements, which he called the five shapes and bodies - aether, fire, water, earth and air." - Xenocrates, On the life of Plato Historical Background of the Aether This document commences by examining the record of the ancient Greek philosophers, and in particular Pythagoras. The work of Pythagoras (570-490BC) is still to be seen at the axiomatic level of the derivation of most modern theories of matter, space and time - inclusive of Quantum Theory and the Theory of Relativity. It is evident that Pythagoras also believed in "the fifth element" - which he called the aether or the aither. This article examines the emergence of thought in the ancient western civilisation concerning the aether, and then that of the ancient eastern civilisation which used the term "Akasha". www.mountainman.com.au/aether.htmlI have read where the five pointed star illustrates the FIVE elements. The four we recognise, Fire Air Water and Earth, arising from the background fifth. The pattern for our body is aetheric - the web upon which that part of the Fire, Air, Water and Earth of us rests and/or has formation. The amputee still 'feels' the part that is gone because the aetheric pattern is still intact. Kirlian photography still photographs the full pattern of a mutilated leave. Maat
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Post by maat on Sept 11, 2007 0:13:53 GMT
One more titbit...
When you manage to raise your energies/vibrations/kundalini (by right thoughts/words/deeds), the kundalini rises up through the third eye, the Pineal, vibrates across (arch) to the pituitary in a sort of scalar wave which then merges at the crown and creates a halo around the head (as in saints & star in the east).
I just wondered whether vibrations might be a key to understanding the peculiar method of advancing to the east in the 3rd (?)
Maat
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Post by gaslight on Sept 11, 2007 4:00:21 GMT
When you manage to raise your energies/vibrations/kundalini (by right thoughts/words/deeds), the kundalini rises up through the third eye, the Pineal, vibrates across (arch) to the pituitary in a sort of scalar wave which then merges at the crown and creates a halo around the head (as in saints & star in the east). I can't help asking, "Sez who?" I've come across many such unequivocal statements since I joined this board. Since I know nothing about "scalar waves merging at the crown", and no explanation is given, I'm left wondering if this is common knowledge among members.
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Post by hollandr on Sept 11, 2007 5:37:27 GMT
>no explanation is given
Perhaps we might classify this as philosophising or speculating
The operational stage is not normally required in speculative Masonry as yet
Cheers
Russell
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Post by maat on Sept 11, 2007 5:42:30 GMT
I can't help asking, "Sez who?" Sez Maat - but I am too old to prove I am correct, I will leave it up to you to prove that I am not ;D You should find some of our threads quite challenging then gaslight. Very briefly - within the body are 7 main chakras through which run three channels of energy. One ascends straight up the other two ascend in a winding manner. This is common knowledge among those who are esoterically inclined. This is the best image I can come up with to explain. www.tantra-kundalini.com/nadis.htm#There are western traditions that teach the same thing and if anyone can find some images to illustrate this I would appreciate it. Maat
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Post by maat on Sept 11, 2007 5:55:05 GMT
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Post by hollandr on Sept 11, 2007 6:02:54 GMT
>within the body are 7 main chakras through which run three channels of energy.
Just to diverge a little, on the weekend after an intense interaction with my partner, I saw in the aura behind her head a "symbol" looking rather like a maltese cross but a little elongated vertically
This of course reminded me of the comments in various sources about symbols in auras
But I saw that it was not purely a symbol but was rather like a socket into which some energy could be connected
And I now know that symbols in the aura are both functional and symbolic
Cheers
Russell
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Post by maat on Sept 11, 2007 22:48:55 GMT
Just a thought Russell... and keeping dreams in mind... can you be sure that the symbol is not created by the subconscious of the person themselves?
Maat
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Post by maat on Sept 11, 2007 22:52:49 GMT
I had a more leisurely read of this link last night, it is very good. In hindsight I think it should have topped the pile. The paper is called Secret Fire: The Relationship Between Kundalini, Kabbalah, and Alchemy.www.levity.com/alchemy/secret-fire.htmlMaat
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Post by hollandr on Sept 12, 2007 0:57:31 GMT
>can you be sure that the symbol is not created by the subconscious of the person themselves?
In the case in point both parties saw the structure
And in the little meditation group last night the members could see corresponding structures in themselves - but just with the central circles (entries) and without the flared arms. And they needed to look on the right plane before seeing the structures
So perhaps the various people had related illusions, or perhaps they saw things that were real but through a conceptual filter
The real test is whether it is possible to make changes through use of these symbol-structures
But even then some entity may provide the results that humans think they are achieving by their own efforts
Cheers
Russell
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Post by thedixiemason on Sept 16, 2007 5:52:05 GMT
This is right up my alley.
Bernard Haisch, Hal Puthoff, Edgar Mitchell, and several of us are investigating this phenomenon. Edgar, as you may know is also a Mason.
Althoug he is not terribly interested in Masonry any more, I did help get him re-affiliated in Florida a few years ago, and he remains a dear friend of mine.
The zero-point field is very interesting.
Supposedly, at absolute zero (-273.15 degrees C) all motion is supposed to stop. Everything should be static... but it's not.
There is evidence that energy is still being emitted and absorbed at absolute zero. That is what this is all about.
It is scientific proof that there is an "ether" or an "akashic record." What Plato called the "realm of forms" and others called "ether" and was thrown out by science, must not be accepted as reality.
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Post by maat on Sept 26, 2007 7:16:37 GMT
This is a new one for me.... how could my weird brain have missed it ? The Masonic link to the Zero point.... "Ma-mother, feminine and 'Sonic'= created by tones or sound.] Ground Zero is Zero Point consciousness. www.crystalinks.com/zeropoint.htmlThat would make us sons of sound, sons of the Word?, which would make us words also.... Man Know Thyself. Ma'at I am pondering the significance of Our Lady of the Immaculate Conception.. et al...
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