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Post by maximus on Mar 26, 2008 20:43:12 GMT
A friend recently returned from South Africa where she had gone to see her elderly mother. She returned somewhat upset. Her mother was still alive but the spiritual parts had gone and recognition was infrequent Interestingly her mother now only speaks about physical things. Perhaps speaking only of physical things is a sign of the soulless It sounds like the progression of Altzhiemer's. It tends to lend credence to the model of spiritual experiences being the function of the human brain. godpart.com/One would think that if there were alien spirits flitting about, ready to control a human body, they would take advantage of the diminished capacity of elderly individuals. This appears not to be the case. Perhaps the spirits are discriminating, rather than desperate, and look forward to the challenge of wrestling control away from a fully functional individual?
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Post by maat on Mar 26, 2008 22:18:31 GMT
how do we detect a human presence? It is in the eyes! Every looked in the eyes of a dead person. I have. You KNOW they are no longer there. The driver has stepped out of the vehicle and has gone. Compare the eyes of a cat to a dog to a canary to a fish. Despite them looking different you will 'feel' a difference also. And we have been told that the eyes are the window of the Soul. And the great books tell us that the soul is the home/temple for the Spirit. Can a body be soul-less? I have read from several sources that the soul becomes anchored in the body of the babe at various times just before birth and even sometimes some time afterwards. If this is true then the babe's body must have been soul-less at some stage - a point often made by people wanting abortions. I have also been told by an anaesthetist friend of mine that they do not know why anaesthetics work. Genuine psychics, seers, etc will tell you that the more subtle feeling body has been temporarily moved out of the physical body to which it is attached by a silver cord. Another thought is - we know another human can invade the consciousness of humans, as in hypnotists. We pay money to go see the show. If one species can do it, I think that we might consider that it might be a possibly inter species wise. Maat
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Post by maat on Mar 26, 2008 22:30:50 GMT
One would think that if there were alien spirits flitting about, ready to control a human body, they would take advantage of the diminished capacity of elderly individuals. This appears not to be the case. In all seriousness, may I suggest that you seek out a handfull of aged care nurses and get their opinions re this. Foreign personalities are common in the extremely frail or elderly. Relatives are puzzled by the extreme change of personality ... it is not uncommon for a life long placid, loving, gentle, ladylike woman will start to scream out in the most vile and objectionable language which would make a sailor blush. This is quite common. The actual tone of the voice is also different. A form of possession I think (not the diabolic kind). Maat
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Post by hollandr on Mar 26, 2008 22:43:42 GMT
>I have read from several sources that the soul becomes anchored in the body of the babe at various times just before birth and even sometimes some time afterwards.
I recall after the birth of my first born that I spent many hours carrying him around to try to relieve his suffering from colic
And on those 2am sessions I used to observe the progress of his soul entering his body. It was like a tide progressing down from his head
And when the tide reached his intestines his colic suddenly and entirely disappeared.
Wonderful
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Post by hollandr on Mar 26, 2008 22:54:28 GMT
>Relatives are puzzled by the extreme change of personality That seems to be common with organ transplants also. www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/CellularMemories.htmlI also wonder about those pets whose owners consider them human. I am unable to say for sure that all those owners are wrong. Perhaps some animals do aspire to be human and do make progress towards self-consciousness. If present it can be seen in the eyes
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Post by hollandr on Mar 26, 2008 23:00:42 GMT
>Perhaps the spirits are discriminating, rather than desperate, Max You bring up an interesting point: the motivation of possessing entities. The entities must receive some benefit from a possession - either some degree of pleasure or some degree of relief from displeasure. This is an interesting area to explore www.amazon.com/Spirit-Releasement-Therapy-Technique-Manual/dp/092991516X is a good place to start
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Post by maximus on Mar 26, 2008 23:26:40 GMT
I meant it as a subtle sarcasm, but, go ahead. This ought to be good...
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Post by maat on Mar 26, 2008 23:32:31 GMT
>I have read from several sources that the soul becomes anchored in the body of the babe at various times just before birth and even sometimes some time afterwards. I recall after the birth of my first born that I spent many hours carrying him around to try to relieve his suffering from colic And on those 2am sessions I used to observe the progress of his soul entering his body. It was like a tide progressing down from his head And when the tide reached his intestines his colic suddenly and entirely disappeared. Wonderful Syncronicity yet again. My mother gave me a drawing last night of the pressure points for relieving colic in babies, she had seen a specialist chiropractor on TV demonstrate the process. I don't have it with me, but I remember one of the points was left hand side of the neck at the base of the skull, and then you roll the pressure down to the l.h.side of the spine just below the base of the neck. This has something to do with unkinking the nerve that runs under there. It provides instant relief apparently. I was told years ago by an Osteopath that colic can be relieved instantly with just a minor spinal massage. Maat
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Post by hollandr on Mar 27, 2008 0:17:41 GMT
>I meant it as a subtle sarcasm, but, go ahead.
That did not escape me but I thought I would offer you the opportunity to consider perhaps the most practical research into entity therapy.
It is the work of a dentist who used to hypnotise his patients and was surprised with the number of intelligences that appeared present in his patients.
Of course it may be more interesting to me than to you.
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