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Post by brandt on Apr 27, 2008 13:11:18 GMT
You have yourself a problem there. Your problem is not that your fiance' is against Masonry. Your problem is that you are about to step into a huge heartache. I was married years ago, to the wrong woman at the wrong time. That did not end well for me, much bitterness for a long time. That was 1994. Last year I asked my current fiance' to marry me. (She said yes by the way). This time it is the right woman and the right time. Perhaps it would be more appropriate to say that now I am the right man who has found the right woman at the right time. Be careful in what you do. It took me 10 years to get over the feelings I had toward the institute of marriage.
Brandt
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Post by mike on Apr 27, 2008 13:46:07 GMT
My fiancee that I have been engaged to for the last 6 months has been steadfast opposed to the masons and will not budge on her beliefs. She often tells me that if I had to make a choice between her and the masons she knows I would choose my brothers over her. Well that is true. If I absolutely had to I would choose the masons over her. Its my life, my belief system, and she has to respect that. Help brothers? How should I handle this? I say BIN HER! You're both cheating on each other, so you shouldn't be anywhere near each other. It isn't Masonry she wants you out of! It's out of her life. Masonry is just an easy excuse. Mike
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Post by leonardo on Apr 27, 2008 17:25:19 GMT
My fiancee that I have been engaged to for the last 6 months has been steadfast opposed to the masons and will not budge on her beliefs. She often tells me that if I had to make a choice between her and the masons she knows I would choose my brothers over her. Well that is true. If I absolutely had to I would choose the masons over her. Its my life, my belief system, and she has to respect that. Help brothers? How should I handle this? I say BIN HER! You're both cheating on each other, so you shouldn't be anywhere near each other. It isn't Masonry she wants you out of! It's out of her life. Masonry is just an easy excuse. Mike Strong words, Mike. But with justification. IMHO. If the scenario is as described then the relationship is doomed no matter what is done so best to take the initiative and cut loose.
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Post by brandt on Apr 27, 2008 23:24:05 GMT
There is nothing to be gained by this but experience and hopefully a hard lesson that will pay dividends later in life.
Brandt
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Post by maat on Apr 29, 2008 0:57:07 GMT
Hopefully when you read this thread again in a month or twelve you will learn something from it.
Maat
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Post by hollandr on Apr 29, 2008 3:52:00 GMT
At the risk of repeating myself: human relationships are very complex and sometimes need to be approached circumspectly
The blindness of physical sight leads western humans to think that what they see is all of the relationship.
In eastern traditions, however, the active participation of other entities (ancestors for example) is considered as well as dharma and karma.
Even if a relationship is not able to proceed at the time, it may well do so in another life.
Generally therefore amputation is not the preferred approach to relationships - unless there is unacceptable damage occurring.
And I have used the word amputation advisedly.
Note the commonplace expressions in English:
- I left my heart in ... - When she left, part of me died - He stole my heart - I lost myself in her eyes - She was his right hand - He was my conscience
What can be done to recover those parts amputated by failure of relationship?
How can humans become whole?
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Post by penfold on Apr 30, 2008 14:27:02 GMT
Maybe not use such overly dramatic phrases and actually have some therapy to get over stuff rather than repeating previous mistakes.....
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Post by maximus on Apr 30, 2008 20:00:44 GMT
We hairless apes are made of sterner stuff than most give credit for. When a relationship ends, face your emotions and move on. Oftentimes, we find that a better companion is out there, and that the former relationship would not have been right for either person.
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Post by Mikepm on May 3, 2008 11:31:13 GMT
Blimey a Masonic Marriage advice Centre!!
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Post by leonardo on May 3, 2008 15:43:11 GMT
Blimey a Masonic Marriage advice Centre!! It could catch on! ;D
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Post by penfold on May 3, 2008 18:40:47 GMT
We aim to please!
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Post by mattjtayl on May 4, 2008 21:58:16 GMT
Maybe not use such overly dramatic phrases and actually have some therapy to get over stuff rather than repeating previous mistakes..... Hey brother Penfold thank you for your brotherly advice.
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Post by penfold on May 5, 2008 15:06:32 GMT
Glad you found it of use, however it wasn't really directed at you matt, altho therapy and self examination is something I would encourage everyone who wants to grow as a person to engage in. My repky was more in line with Russell's comments, but hey, if it works!
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Post by JohnD on Jul 14, 2008 18:54:06 GMT
I say go on and marry her and then try to get her involved with OES to ease up her beliefs a bit. I don't envy your position though.
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Post by leonardo on Jul 15, 2008 8:05:01 GMT
I say go on and marry her and then try to get her involved with OES to ease up her beliefs a bit. I don't envy your position though. She could of course join a Co-Masonic Lodge or Ladies only Masonry.
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Post by JohnD on Jul 15, 2008 13:30:18 GMT
I say go on and marry her and then try to get her involved with OES to ease up her beliefs a bit. I don't envy your position though. She could of course join a Co-Masonic Lodge or Ladies only Masonry. You are right. I didn't think of that. I have no experience with Co-Masonic or Ladies Only Lodges. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Post by leonardo on Jul 15, 2008 17:47:47 GMT
She could of course join a Co-Masonic Lodge or Ladies only Masonry. You are right. I didn't think of that. I have no experience with Co-Masonic or Ladies Only Lodges. Thanks for pointing that out. You are welcome. You are not alone, by the way. Many interested in Freemasonry only learn about Co and Female only Masonry via forums such as this. In fact, this is how I learned about LDH
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