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Post by AndyF on Apr 28, 2008 11:43:51 GMT
I've recently done my third degree, and theres all sorts of talk about other orders buzzing around both brethren in my lodge, and other masons I socialise with. Don't get me wrong, no one is twisting my arm to sign up to anything, and I'm in no rush.
Most of what I have heard has been about the Royal Arch, and a tiny bit here and there about AASR. I've heard nothing at all about SRIA, and I'm curious.
Can anyone tell me anything about it?
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Post by lauderdale on Apr 28, 2008 12:14:49 GMT
Middlepillar would be the best man to tell you about it. He hasn't been too well recently, but when he is back on line I'm sure he will be able to tell you about SRIA.
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Post by xiii on Apr 28, 2008 13:31:18 GMT
There's info on the official website: sria.info/ You may also find some more info on this forum, if you try a search. But yeah, MP will surely drop by again (hopefully sooner than later!). It is not a Masonic order per se, but rather a Rosicrucian order for Master Masons. I hope to join a College next year ...
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Post by john1234s on Apr 28, 2008 16:25:47 GMT
Most of what I have heard has been about the Royal Arch, and a tiny bit here and there about AASR. I've heard nothing at all about SRIA, and I'm curious. It is an invitational order open to Master Masons who also hold a belief in trinitarian Christianity.
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Post by droche on Apr 29, 2008 0:11:34 GMT
In my geographical area, it seems that the only ones I have read about being in it are the big shots in Freemasonry. Years ago one of my neighbours, who is not a Mason, was also taking courses in it, so there seems to be two different orders, one for Masons, and one that is non-Masonic.
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Post by xiii on Apr 29, 2008 2:36:22 GMT
The SRICF (the US version) is still by invitation, SRIA not so much. sria.info/ is SR in Anglia and the official website for UK www.sricf.org/SRICF.html is SR in Civitatibus Foederatis and is the official site for US www.sria.org/ is SR in America, and has nothing to do with ("our") SRIA! And similarly there are a number of other Rosicrucian societies that are not associated with the masonic SRIA/SRIS/SRICF.
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Post by john1234s on Apr 29, 2008 17:36:24 GMT
The SRICF (the US version) is still by invitation, SRIA not so much. That's too bad. The SRIC, which I belong to, is still invitational.
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Post by middlepillar on Apr 29, 2008 21:03:30 GMT
I've recently done my third degree, and theres all sorts of talk about other orders buzzing around both brethren in my lodge, and other masons I socialise with. Don't get me wrong, no one is twisting my arm to sign up to anything, and I'm in no rush. Most of what I have heard has been about the Royal Arch, and a tiny bit here and there about AASR. I've heard nothing at all about SRIA, and I'm curious. Can anyone tell me anything about it? Hi Andy The SRIA is probably the smallest of all the recognised 'Side orders' or as Bro Lauderdale prefers 'Higher degrees'! In Australia there is only 6 Colleges, as most Colleges average about 30-40 member I would guess there are approx only 200 members in Australia. Which is probably why you do not hear about it that much! I can tell you that this years Trianniel festival will be held in Melbourne I cannot remember if it is July or August but it is definatley in Melbourne. Our Bro xiii has posted the excellent links that will give you plenty of info on The SRIA. As has been stated there are lots of Rosicrucian organisations out there, some are extremely well run and others that just seem to be in it for the money! As a member of 4 Colleges I would highly recommend the SRIA to any Freemason wishing to explore the more esoteric and Christian side of Freemasonry, however it is not for everyone. If you would like to ask any further questions please feel free to ask, I am sure there are plenty of members who could happily add thier views.
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Post by bluebeard on Apr 29, 2008 21:51:32 GMT
Ok, I got a question...
Im here in southern California (USA) and heard that in order to join any 'masonic' R+C group I would have to give up my membership in any 'non masonic' R+C group. Is this correct???
thanks in advance for any further Light.
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Post by hollandr on Apr 29, 2008 22:42:42 GMT
I would be surprised if that is so
Generally Grand Lodges have no position on organisations that do not claim to be Masonic
In Australia I used to belong to AMORC and there were at least 6 Masons in the local AMORC lodge
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Post by bluebeard on Apr 29, 2008 23:03:18 GMT
I'm actually speaking of SRIA, and / or other Masonic Rosicrucian groups.
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Post by sid on Apr 30, 2008 0:35:40 GMT
Greetings Russel et al, I would be surprised if that is so Generally Grand Lodges have no position on organisations that do not claim to be Masonic In Australia I used to belong to AMORC and there were at least 6 Masons in the local AMORC lodge I met many Masons within AMORC, and a few other Orders as well. In one special case here in Germany a good friend of mine did become a Mason after some 30 years as a member of AMORC. I am sure that he will remain a Rosicrucian student for all time, but Masonry will most certainlly have greatly profited by having him join their ranks. For the most part, from my personal experience, most Masons within AMORC (etc.) were and are Masons first, i.e., they have been guided in some way and have their own individual vibration linked to the egregore of their choice, and regardless of country/jurisdiction. I would define their personal 'egregore' (vibration sent out) as a building with a sound foundation. A bit like standing on solid ground etc. The only negative experiences where when I had a distinct feeling that I should appologise (?) in some way for being an AMORC member or because I did not happen to belong to this or that Masonic or 'magical' Order etc.
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Post by middlepillar on Apr 30, 2008 16:45:19 GMT
Ok, I got a question... Im here in southern California (USA) and heard that in order to join any 'masonic' R+C group I would have to give up my membership in any 'non masonic' R+C group. Is this correct??? thanks in advance for any further Light. Hi Bro Bluebeard (or should that be captain? ) With regards to the SRIA there is no restriction on joining other Rosicrucian orders, the only restriction that could be said is that you may not wear any SRIA regalia at any other Rosicrucian meeting (other than at meetings of recognised Orders such as SRIS etc) or claim seniority of rank from your membership of SRIA. I do know from talking on other Forums, in America it is different, however I am not familiar with the rules pertaining to US orders.
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Post by bluebeard on May 1, 2008 0:43:57 GMT
Greetings Russel et al, from my personal experience, most Masons within AMORC (etc.) were and are Masons first, i.e., they have been guided in some way and have their own individual vibration linked to the egregore of their choice, and regardless of country/jurisdiction. I would define their personal 'egregore' (vibration sent out) as a building with a sound foundation. A bit like standing on solid ground etc. Hi Sid, True words, I see Freemasonry as a type of 'grounding work' before, after, and during more esoteric / mystical journeys. BTW, thanks for pointing me to this group. in Light, +ramon
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Post by sid on May 1, 2008 1:34:26 GMT
Greetings Russel et al, from my personal experience, most Masons within AMORC (etc.) were and are Masons first, i.e., they have been guided in some way and have their own individual vibration linked to the egregore of their choice, and regardless of country/jurisdiction. I would define their personal 'egregore' (vibration sent out) as a building with a sound foundation. A bit like standing on solid ground etc. Hi Sid, True words, I see Freemasonry as a type of 'grounding work' before, after, and during more esoteric / mystical journeys. BTW, thanks for pointing me to this group. in Light, +ramon If you go to: www.bbk.ac.uk/english/tbs/ForshawAmbixDee2005.pdf You will find "The Citadel of Magnesia" by Heinrich Khunrath on page 262. The Monas od John Dee is also there as well.
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Post by bluebeard on May 1, 2008 7:05:01 GMT
Sid, Thank you Do you possibly know where I can find the English translation of Khunraths latin writings (specially his plates and the Citadel)? I've found some bits here and there on the net but not even close to a full translation. thanks again, +ramon
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Post by sid on May 1, 2008 12:07:02 GMT
Sid, Thank you Do you possibly know where I can find the English translation of Khunraths latin writings (specially his plates and the Citadel)? I've found some bits here and there on the net but not even close to a full translation. thanks again, +ramon I'm afraid not. The only work that has been done is in German, and his main Work on Alchemy is a facsimile copy in very old German that is not easy to read. A study of 4 of his plates (Hanau 1609) by Ralf Töllner was published in German in 1991.
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Post by bluebeard on May 1, 2008 19:14:21 GMT
Hi Bro Bluebeard (or should that be captain? ) LOL, actually my barber used to call me that before his transition. Captain Blue Beard is another 'story' I guess I'll contact the California collage and let you all know what they require if they get back to me. Thanks again and in Light, +r
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Post by john1234s on May 1, 2008 20:31:06 GMT
I guess I'll contact the California collage and let you all know what they require if they get back to me. Have you been invited to join? If not, contacting them about membership could be a sure fire way of not getting invited. Membership in other Rosicrucian orders (meant to read here Amorc), is not forbidden in the Constitutions, but has been a "traditional" history for so long you'll likely be told that it's true.
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Post by bluebeard on May 2, 2008 5:05:53 GMT
I guess I'll contact the California collage and let you all know what they require if they get back to me. Have you been invited to join? If not, contacting them about membership could be a sure fire way of not getting invited. Membership in other Rosicrucian orders (meant to read here Amorc), is not forbidden in the Constitutions, but has been a "traditional" history for so long you'll likely be told that it's true. Hmm, thats good to know! in Light, +r
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