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Post by leonardo on Feb 21, 2009 14:40:50 GMT
Unfortunately, though, Whistler, it appears Lynn has deleted her own account. However, if she wishes to return our doors remain open. She may not yet be ready for Freemasonry but if she continues to visit forums like this then in time she could well be of a different mind about those things which she's currently finding difficulties with. We have all been there at one time or another.
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Post by cosmicthought on Feb 26, 2009 5:01:22 GMT
Some people choose to play with toy's and other's choose to walk with the god's.
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Post by afterthought on Feb 26, 2009 6:20:47 GMT
This type of electronic medium is too impersonal for situations such as these. A personal voice and eye to eye contact are needed.
Judgements made through these types of interactions are inaccurate to say the least.
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Post by whistler on Feb 26, 2009 9:51:07 GMT
Re my comment about lynn1 not enjoying Freemasonry - Freemasonry is an emotional partnership - not able to be read about in books. When we are ready to join Freemasonry we Find Freemasonry is ready for us.
There could well be a time when Lynn1 would enjoy Freemasonry but from reading her posts wouldn't think she would be at peace in the craft at the moment
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Post by lauderdale on Feb 26, 2009 10:21:51 GMT
Bro Whistler, I totally agree. Freemasonry is an Initiatic Experience and cannot be derived from reading alone. From the age of 15 till 35 when I was Initiated I read all I could get my hands on about Freemasonry but that research did NOT make me a Mason! I also know that at the age of 21 I would not have been suited to Freemasonry. I had lessons to learn from Life.
The sharp edge to Lynn's postings would lead me to agree with yourself and others that at this time she would not be happy in Freemasonry. Hopefully as time passes, and we all change over time, she may be more at ease with herself and suited to enter The Craft.
With others I wish her well and hope that she achieves that which she is seeking..
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Post by afterthought on Feb 26, 2009 17:39:20 GMT
Esoteric Freemasons (AA&EF) would disagree. While they may not simply read their rituals (it is much more than that) they do practice self or "astral" initiation and from those who I have met they do so quite effectivley.
Other mystery traditions (Rosicrucians come to mind) also make successful use of self initiation.
Are generalized books on the subject of Freemasonry the same as self initiation? Hardley, but then again perhaps that is another topic for further investigation?
I am trying not to be close minded to any experience that will bring someone the joy of Masonic light.
After my travels this much I have learned.
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Post by leonardo on Feb 26, 2009 18:36:20 GMT
This type of electronic medium is too impersonal for situations such as these. A personal voice and eye to eye contact are needed. Judgements made through these types of interactions are inaccurate to say the least. Indeed. However, this medium is all we can currently go on and in my personal view it's been fairly successful but you are right, it isn't perfect by any means.
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Post by afterthought on Feb 26, 2009 19:16:55 GMT
Bro. Leo, That may be correct under these circumstances. One thing that I have chosen to do is never to make a judgement about someone based on this type of communication. Judgements are very serious business and they should only take place with as much real data as possible.
I don't find electronic communication to be a window to the soul. I find it to be only a minimal glimpse into the personality of the poster. That may only be illusory.
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Post by leonardo on Feb 26, 2009 21:41:21 GMT
We all work within certain limitations; even when we meet someone face to face we may never get the real picture, we may of course get a better picture than the one presented on fora such as these but very few are as good at judging someones character as they might actually think.
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Post by penfold on Mar 24, 2009 21:09:36 GMT
For those who wondered www.annsummers.combe warned tho - some may find it is not suitable for family viewing.....
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Post by afterthought on Mar 24, 2009 21:46:33 GMT
For those who wondered www.annsummers.combe warned tho - some may find it is not suitable for family viewing..... I don't get it.
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Post by FireMist on Mar 30, 2009 21:48:07 GMT
It had to do with a comment on page one. I sill don't have a clue what Ann Summer's summer salad recipe has to do with Tupperware parties and masonry.
oh well. probably whatever the content of the website is that he's linked. It doesn't work on my computer.
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Post by imakegarb on Mar 31, 2009 3:43:09 GMT
Well, I think there's some Anne Summer's types who think that it's a female-only thing. My guess is the more the female-only crowd tries to keep it all to themselves, the more the male-only and mixed crowd will struggle for their right to Anne Summer it up. I think there's a dead horse around here. All I need to a stick and . . .
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Post by joyrock on Apr 3, 2009 0:31:07 GMT
Why the continued use of these subdivisions amongst human beings?
Would we think it proper to call someone a Co-Human Being?
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Post by imakegarb on Apr 5, 2009 6:18:06 GMT
*I* don't find it especially insulting to be called a "Co-Mason" as it is the kind of Freemason I happen to be. I certainly don't find it a subdivision.
I am wondering why you do.
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Post by joyrock on Apr 6, 2009 1:33:18 GMT
Nothing huge, just a pet peeve.
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Post by FireMist on Apr 6, 2009 4:35:57 GMT
the only thing I find confusing about the term is that co-ed is termed to mostly mean women of an organization. Not mixed. That IS confusing.
co·ed or co-ed (kd) Informal n. A woman who attends a coeducational college or university
In this case, we are using the adj. definition of it... but many don't know that.
1. Of or relating to an education system in which both men and women attend the same institution or classes; coeducational 2 Open to both sexes..
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Post by humbleseeker1 on Jun 28, 2009 18:44:05 GMT
I imagine that the GL of Iowa dose not except females because the interview committee told me we were all men. I am just a canadite and did not know till I found this site that there was female masons.
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Post by magusmasonica on Jun 28, 2009 18:58:58 GMT
I imagine that the GL of Iowa dose not except females because the interview committee told me we were all men. I am just a canadite and did not know till I found this site that there was female masons. No, the GL of Iowa does not recognize or accept women as Masons. That doesn't mean much other than within their own confined reality. Love and Light,
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Post by generatics on Jul 6, 2009 19:57:46 GMT
...Because that is the way it is, I did not make it so. No one here made it so. We can not make it different today. There is Male Craft, there is Female Craft and there is Co Masonry. What is wrong with that, you join the one that makes you happy... i know this is from way back on page 1 but one thought jumps to mind and it goes along with another thing you said on page 1 in that "I can visit thousands of Lodges all over the world.." that could be, i think, one very compelling reason for brethren of non-mainstream Masonry to want to be accepted by the mainstream, at least at a visitation level. there are thousands of Lodges and millions of members out there in the mainstream, not all of which are opposed to Co-Masonry or female Craft. this board is clear evidence of that. the "alternative" orders are much smaller in number and i'd imagine some of them could see a lot of good in being able to travel all over the world and see the vast number of Lodges and meet brethren from potentially anywhere. dunno, i'm currently in male craft so i'm just speculating and maybe i'm wrong. just a thought.
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