|
Post by stepnwolf on Nov 28, 2009 16:41:39 GMT
Surfing the web the other night, I noticed a photo of a L. at labor with the Lesser Lights arranged about the A in a way I'd not seen before. Usually they are arranged like this :. that is with the Can. at the A flanked by two of the Lights and one to the east of the A on the Can's left.
This photo showed two of the lights east of A. and one Light west of A and to the Can's right. something like this ˙:
It's my understanding that in some workings the lights are placed on the pedestals of the WW and Master, or next to them.
Would you say these variations are merely the result of faulty memory or are they significant in an esoteric way?
|
|
FireMist
Member
Then rally boys, and hasten on.To meet our Chiefs at the Green Dragon.
Posts: 293
|
Post by FireMist on Nov 28, 2009 19:08:46 GMT
I am wondering if it is a staged photo as such items are not normally taken during workings.
|
|
|
Post by mcovey on Dec 4, 2009 1:15:53 GMT
We do not take photos in lodge at all. When we have visitors and/or take photos the furniture is changed.
|
|
|
Post by jayman on Jan 22, 2010 23:02:15 GMT
I was at a 1st the other night and was wondering if the order of the lesser lights was mixed up.
In Canada, the lights are at the altar (E, W & S) Arranged so that the E & W are to the left of the altar (when facing the WM) and the S to the right of the altar.
Okay, the lights were identified as W, S & B and assigned to each of the 3 Grand Masters accordingly.
But what got me was the placement. W, also identified with KS was in the W (facing SW) and S, identified with H, K of T was in the E (facing WM)
If the E is called the chair of KS, why were they placed as such?
|
|
ruffashlar
Member
Lodge Milncroft No. 1515 (GLoS), Govanhill Royal Arch Chapter 523 (S.G.R.A.C.S.)
Posts: 2,184
|
Post by ruffashlar on Feb 8, 2010 17:51:45 GMT
There is no specific or intended significance as to where or how the lights are placed. The link between the East and Light is an easy and obvious one to make, but originally they were probably placed wherever was convenient, so that the Master or other officebearer could reach them easily, and where no hoodwinked candidate could walk into them by accident.
Similarly the placing of three lights in the First Degree, versus two and one in subsequent Degrees, was probably not originally intended, as we know there were at first only two Degrees in the Operative Craft - Apprentice and Fellow, of which the Mark was an integral part. The amputation of the Mark in English (but not Scottish) Masonry and the creation of the Third Degree, both of probable 18th Century origin, makes all Masonry uniform with a threefold symmetry of Degree, Knocks, Wardens/Master, etc.
|
|
|
Post by mattjtayl on Apr 19, 2010 19:53:53 GMT
Surfing the web the other night, I noticed a photo of a L. at labor with the Lesser Lights arranged about the A in a way I'd not seen before. Usually they are arranged like this :. that is with the Can. at the A flanked by two of the Lights and one to the east of the A on the Can's left. This photo showed two of the lights east of A. and one Light west of A and to the Can's right. something like this ˙: It's my understanding that in some workings the lights are placed on the pedestals of the WW and Master, or next to them. Would you say these variations are merely the result of faulty memory or are they significant in an esoteric way? I have noticed this too. Maybe that is actually the correct way and we do it the wrong way? After all if you ever look at drawings of a masonic initiation from the 1700's that is the way they arrange the 3 lesser lights.
|
|
ricardo
Member
Australia
Posts: 161
|
Post by ricardo on Apr 22, 2010 13:33:08 GMT
|
|
|
Post by letterorhalveit3 on Apr 24, 2010 13:57:41 GMT
Our Lessers are arranged at one corner of the altar, but arranged in triangular form with one East, one West and one South. There is also a pattern to the way they are lit and extinguished by the S:.D:.
|
|