rosecrossmac
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Post by rosecrossmac on Oct 5, 2012 6:24:38 GMT
I'm very interested in the Rectified Scottish Rite or the Rite of Strict Observance. It seems finding a lodge of either that accepts women as members is as easy as swimming in the sand. Doesn't mean I've given up, but I haven't gotten any closer.
The Swedish Rite also seems to have what I need spiritually. Moving to Scandinavia however is out of the question.
Any help?
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rosecrossmac
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Post by rosecrossmac on Oct 7, 2012 16:24:17 GMT
This is starting to get frustrating. Is there anywhere online that's available for active discussion on this topic?
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Post by middlepillar on Oct 7, 2012 17:24:35 GMT
This is starting to get frustrating. Is there anywhere online that's available for active discussion on this topic? Nothing that is worth having should be easy to get, it may be frustrating but that is part of the journey. If it is meant to be you will find it or it will find you. Do not expect those who have found thier own way to be very forthcoming in assisting you, if they have found it they will have learnt that it is part of the journey to be able to do so without too much help. As a member I certainly do not wishg to discuss the Order or those Orders closely attached to it on an Internet Forum open to all, thats really the conundrum or even Catch 22! I wish you well on your journey!
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rosecrossmac
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Post by rosecrossmac on Oct 7, 2012 18:53:20 GMT
This is starting to get frustrating. Is there anywhere online that's available for active discussion on this topic? Nothing that is worth having should be easy to get, it may be frustrating but that is part of the journey. If it is meant to be you will find it or it will find you. Do not expect those who have found thier own way to be very forthcoming in assisting you, if they have found it they will have learnt that it is part of the journey to be able to do so without too much help. As a member I certainly do not wishg to discuss the Order or those Orders closely attached to it on an Internet Forum open to all, thats really the conundrum or even Catch 22! I wish you well on your journey! You seem to have misunderstood me. I'm not about easy but graciousness and the hand of fellowship should be offered for those who seek with a sincere heart. I've dedicated myself on the path of the divine, and as a Lesbian Catholic, if you think that's easy I'd hate to see what you'd find difficult I'd rather find an established body to further my path, but if they are not cooperative, I may have to find (and recommend) alternatives.
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Post by middlepillar on Oct 7, 2012 20:53:05 GMT
You seem to have misunderstood me. I'm not about easy but graciousness and the hand of fellowship should be offered for those who seek with a sincere heart. I've dedicated myself on the path of the divine, and as a Lesbian Catholic, if you think that's easy I'd hate to see what you'd find difficult I'd rather find an established body to further my path, but if they are not cooperative, I may have to find (and recommend) alternatives. And you seem to of misunderstood my post as well! I would agree that the hand of graciousness should be held out to those who seek with a sincere heart. The problem is you really need to spend time here so that those that might be able to help can get to know you, perhaps I should also have mentioned patience? This great virtue is required by all those who genuinely seek, for the road is long and has many difficulties. So, please take this the way it is meant, as advice. You need to spend time so people can get to know you and be sure of your sincerity, you need to be patient and not get frustrated after only a few days on the board. Those that can do these things will, I am sure find great benefit from being a member here, if you want all the answers now, then I am afraid this Forum wont be for you. As I have said, I wish you well on your journey only time will tell if you eventually share it with us.
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Post by mrmason on Oct 8, 2012 13:53:36 GMT
I think Middlepillar has explained this very well.
Many of us have waited years for the opportunity to join or be initiated into whatever order we were searching for.
From joining a craft lodge to actually being guided onto the path that I am now venturing, has taken me over 20yrs. This to me is not elitism by it's membership or any such like, but as MP has stated, it is the caution that is observed by those who are members.
"I'd rather find an established body to further my path, but if they are not cooperative, I may have to find (and recommend) alternatives"
Whilst I too wish you well in your endeavours, the above statement seems to me that you feel that you are entitled to whatever it is you are seeking. Whilst I'm sure that you are no doubt worthy of whatever it is you are seeking, those who are members of the order will probably require more than an affirmation from yourself.
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rosecrossmac
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Post by rosecrossmac on Oct 8, 2012 15:48:25 GMT
I think Middlepillar has explained this very well. Many of us have waited years for the opportunity to join or be initiated into whatever order we were searching for. From joining a craft lodge to actually being guided onto the path that I am now venturing, has taken me over 20yrs. This to me is not elitism by it's membership or any such like, but as MP has stated, it is the caution that is observed by those who are members. "I'd rather find an established body to further my path, but if they are not cooperative, I may have to find (and recommend) alternatives" Whilst I too wish you well in your endeavours, the above statement seems to me that you feel that you are entitled to whatever it is you are seeking. Whilst I'm sure that you are no doubt worthy of whatever it is you are seeking, those who are members of the order will probably require more than an affirmation from yourself. I feel that I am only "entitled" to walk the path that the Lord has chosen for me. If that makes me seem impatient, so be it. It's an unfair accusation but the accusations of men aren't all that important to me.
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Post by Hubert (N. Z.) on Oct 8, 2012 19:48:40 GMT
Hi Rosecrossmac, I'm assuming your in the UK. There are several Co-Masonic groups that work more spiritual ceremonies than the general "Male" craft. Check the CoMaonry & Female Section for specific details. I'm out of touch with UK current situation, being in New Zealand. The Eastern Order here work a very spiritual form using the "Annie Besant" Ritual. However, one needs to allow approx. 6 months (Minimum) to be known by members, before they generally are prepared to propose and application for membership. To get to the specific "Christian" degrees will the take quite a while, possibly 10 years
Hope this helps your journey of discovery, Blessings & enjoy the process, Hubert
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Post by whistler on Nov 5, 2012 5:01:00 GMT
Hi Rosecrossmac, I belong to the same order as Hubert. Re "Christian" Freemasonry I am not a Christian Our lodges do not subscribe to any particular religion, in part of our ritual we have the Sacred "Lore" (Legends) of various religions. Other than a requirement to believe in a Supreme Being - There is no other religious requirement. In our Order the Rose Croix unlike some Malecraft versions doesn't require a Christian Belief. Some of the ritual may appear to be overtly Christian, but as most Christian customs and ritual have their origins in much much older eras - Ones thoughts are drawn back to very ancient times. As to " path of the divine, and as a Lesbian Catholic," I can't imagine why a Freemason would ask about those things - they are just not relevant. Freemasonry simply is a system of Morality, that offers keys for the individual to ponder - the learning is personal and not taught.
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