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Post by peter2 on Apr 17, 2014 20:40:24 GMT
This last comment Peter. Would this be because the genuine secrets are from a individually based system? Masonry would be that of traffic signs along the journey. Giving guidance but not grabbing their wheel. The genuine secrets are based in the reality of Existence and the functions that humans are expected to contribute to that Existence. The initial challenges are to cleanse the human of habits and attitudes derogatory to that Existence and to align with the rhythms of Existence. As the nature of Existence becomes apparent the human is able to take a proper role. The core role is represented by combining these images:
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Post by sammy on Apr 18, 2014 1:42:24 GMT
This last comment Peter. Would this be because the genuine secrets are from a individually based system? Masonry would be that of traffic signs along the journey. Giving guidance but not grabbing their wheel. The genuine secrets are based in the reality of Existence and the functions that humans are expected to contribute to that Existence. The initial challenges are to cleanse the human of habits and attitudes derogatory to that Existence and to align with the rhythms of Existence. As the nature of Existence becomes apparent the human is able to take a proper role. The core role is represented by combining these images: Im mostly positive we are saying the same thing, HAHA.
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Post by sammy on Apr 18, 2014 1:43:30 GMT
Isnt your theories about similar things William? You mean theories to do with music Sammy? Yes, at least I thought you had.
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Post by william on Apr 18, 2014 20:51:36 GMT
You mean theories to do with music Sammy? Yes, at least I thought you had. Sound seems to have everything to do with the formation of matter in this universe Sammy. Frequencies which have effect upon the stuff of matter.
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Post by peter2 on Apr 19, 2014 1:14:44 GMT
While the exercise can be done in the bath, it is better when you are learning to sit upright with a quite vertical spine, in quiet place.
The human system has a range of intelligences present and not all of them are willing to submit to Spirit. Some are more than creative in finding suitable distractions and indeed in subverting spiritual practices.
It is the flame of Spirit that needs to be addressed rather than the flame of Matter.
The primary intelligence that refuses Spirit conceals itself within the mind and explains that it is you.
I was walking along the road and suddenly realised that I was a soul - as compared with having a soul. The event of course was preceded by much mental change and significant practice of meditation.
That is not what I wrote. If you are determined to do yoga, you might be well advised to restrict yourself to Hatha yoga until you know what you are.
Spiritual exercises typically exist within the aura of a greater being. It is important to be able to recognise your own kind before immersing yourself in such a being.
Certainly that is case in larger towns. Small towns may only have one lodge.
The founders of the lodge may well have understood the implications of the naming but the current members may not. It is more important to learn to feel the quality of the lodge. Go and park outside various lodges while the brethren are arriving. See if you can tell the differences.
I have not witnessed dark lodges in mainstream Masonry but have seen dark influences present. This can be seen in the lack of harmony of the brethren. Mainstream lodges invoke the Great Architect of the Universe (or similar naming). Naming the sponsor by function rather than cultural title is important, as the url of higher entities can be hijacked. Take for example the term Lord. How many uses for that url can be found in the Old Testament?
Observe the brethren and the nature of the lodge will be clear.
Most mainstream lodges restrict their instruction to the ritual and give a moralising speculation on the symbolism. Some Masonic orders are more esoteric and generally not mainstream. Even the esoteric Masonic orders, are often more speculative than practical with the inner work.
I received my basic inner training during my meditation, after some years of very regular meditation.
Sounds good so far.
Having obtained inner freedom, most are required to rejoin society, swimming in the ocean of humanity.
Cheers
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Post by Oncewaslost on Apr 19, 2014 1:27:09 GMT
Wow, your experience shared through that link I find quite astounding. Funny thing is before you had confirmed how the communication was occurring i'd felt that was the case. The more I study, the more I am becoming of the belief that our beliefs and paradigms, be them conscious or subconscious, do in fact paint our reality.. As though the eye is a canvas and the mind is the paint. Henceforth the key to unlocking the door to ones own mind (i'd surmise) is continued practice, with intent, in such a direction until the belief is knowing. (Knower, Noah, I like it!) The more I repeat this belief, the more evidence emerges for that belief to be true. (I am a billionaire, I am impressively musculature, I am attractive to the most beautiful women, I am a billionaire, I am impressively musculature, I am attractive to the most beautiful women, I am a billionaire, I am impressively musculature, I am attractive to the most beautiful women,I am a billionaire, I am impressively musculature, I am attractive to the most beautiful women. Hahaha ;D watch hyperinflation hit and all women turn lesbian as I crack that one! lol) So if everything and everyone is in fact one, what causes the separation/seeing of others as others!? How does achieving desires and freewill come into this equation? i.e being extremely successful whilst avoiding being of detriment to another. Answers leads to more questions, at ease young mind.
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Post by sammy on Apr 21, 2014 4:07:32 GMT
How strange, tonight I learned of the descent into hades, the circle of death experience was the descent into hades. Visited hell and my light blew it to smitherines haha, now may the heavens pour down greatness for all. Did yoga today and feeling quite energetic, the room was 42 degrees c for a 90 minute session! Got burned in more than one respect, the 20 day introductory special offer is only actually 10 day upon checking my pass, two of those days are closed being bank holidays and i'd already payed £10 for todays session which had kindly been included in the £20 introductory offer. Greedy feckers, shall be raising on Tuesday! On a plus note in the final position which was a release and acknowledgement as the instructor said I had serious eye twitching and flickers of white/violet, the feeling however didn't fully take over as the mini me kept popping up 'oooo that is a bit different..' Listening to music turned up loud right now, wished that the class was on again tomorrow as quite keen to get to it, roll on Tuesday! Weather permitting a nice bike ride may be in order. Released some emotions and baggage for sure then felt great. Wrote this upon offering guidance to a suffering individual asking for help on curezone (I was seriously ill for a large amount of time overcoming a huge list of symptoms/traumas so try to help others overcome their situations, there sure is reason why some try every medicine in the book yet their symptoms remain whilst other carry out the same protocols and heal, all reading this post are of course familiar with those reasons). Not sure the relevance of posting this un-requested information, maybe simply to share some potential smile material Lee G's cure for absof**kinglutely anything! Enjoy what is happening in life, whatever hard times may arise, be sure to create good times, re-balance the scale. Continue progressing and growing in every way possible, forget what is not possible, anything is possible. Work to increase fitness and take care of the body, think about what would TRULY make you feel good and DO IT! Talk strongly and confidently, build strong relationships, do something everyday that increases the heart beat and feel alive. Cook new foods to enjoy, learn what makes you tick, learn how it ticks and march to the same beat. Read books and educate, watch funny films, listen to music that makes your body dance and TURN IT UP LOUD! Be Creative. Give generously and receive graciously... Then as if by magic... Rock on man!!
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Post by william on Apr 21, 2014 17:14:20 GMT
I need serious help, one minute I feel as above and the next... \/ \/ \/ I've had a rough ride and need to figure why t keeps going left and right before I end this shit, tired of being lied to and used. Need new life. new friends. New experience. Trust. Who life i've been lied to, stolen from and abused. Why was I born into this mess!? nd as for why I didn't speak to you for a year, it's cos I lent you my last twenty quid, then at asda you bought a tenners worth of booze, i didn't have money for a bottle of milk, that's cool I don't really need the bottle of milk it's a treat... Then after giving you my last twenty quid and you seeing me go to a party on a empty stomach you spend the remainder of the said twenty quid on the shittest fucking batman tattoo i've ever seen to get in the good books of some up her own arse, making a killing of her 'mates' tattooist. And before you even think about mentioning my line of business, trust me I lost fucking thousands off my so called freeloading mates, I gave considerably more than i'd received and you all stabbed me in the back. Wouldn't mind I fucked every single one of you off and got quite used to living a life with no friends in realising friend is just a fucking word, I ain't got no fucking friends just people I am useful to cashing in. Convenience, benefit, dependence, just a fucking word that's what friendship is. Then with all the effort you make to get in touch and hook me and John back up together I think well maybe this is a good thing, I can let that shit go... Neither of you return calls, follow up texts, return messages and i'm the one who even has to go to the effort of borrowing phones or using websites to get in touch, too busy living humdrum no time to actually speak to mates but all the time to drink and get stoned waste of space fucking lifestyles. I seen John every day for three weeks after our rekindling, that was the three weeks I had a decent stash and contact for the best fucking shit. Now I have quite and hooked him up with the contact, not seen him in three months. I'd expect more humane manners from my fucking dog. Literally every fucking one i've treated as family has fucking twisted the knife. Be it John not paying the rent and spending the rent I give him or not backing me up when pk stole my shit (cos he didn't want to piss off the drug den he inhabited) but he'd probably suck a dick if weed is involved. Be it Jodie a thousand and one cases of lying and fucking around, thank fuck that heroin addict sleep with whoever's got something bitch is on the other side of the world. Be it Jake who i'd treated as a fucking brother taking my missus into his house, going Leeds with her and John, and Jodie says 'I wanna go with my mates, I don't want you there'?!? Waaa? My two best fucking mates and missus!?!?? Then that prick cuts me out and talks god knows how much shit, before I know it my closest friends who we've holidayed ,travelled and smoked countless shit (from my pockets) with aren't even bothering with me. Be it big Pete who lived in my house day in day out for over a year then not so long back him and his merry men wouldn't even spare me a fucking full cig and made it out to be a chore whenever I showed up at his house, quickly forgetting all the times a nice fat one was on the table at mine. I wouldn't mind the amount of shit I hear all these groups of so called mates chatting about each other, just shows all of your true characters, one week one guy is sound and next week he is a prick. Be it big A who again was like a brother, fucking me off for the same gang who stabbed me in the back. Be it Cow who I lend a brand new galaxy phone to cos his was stolen and i had a spare, he fucking trashes it and doesn't even have the balls to bring it up, just hides away like a fucking pansy. Be it Big fat freeloading J and Zoe who disappeared when Merseyrock split. Be it Tidz who fucked the band up tryig to shag all of our fucking missus'. Be it J whos band Merseyrock fucking made, and my Dad rushes to his aid at 3 in the morning after a supposed overdose only for him to fuck our family up, not to mention the numerous other tag alongs who disappeared when shit went tits with Merseyrock. Be it Capper, same again makes it out a chore when I show up at his house, like it's a fucking chore giving out the odd smoke, quick to forget the amount of fucking shit of mine he plowed through in time. Be it Neil who constantly steals my shit and acts like it don't happen. Be it Sheri who accuses me of being a liar after being the only one to defend her in a rape case, the girl who sleeps around and sees guys she leads on go to jail, calls me a liar!? Be it Mike Askew who lets me work with him for free on god knows how many occasions (so kind) then makes thousands from a job he gets given for nothing, palms me off with some scummy shit product and 50 quid (knowing I need the money) and kicks up a stink when I push him for a hundred, his missus think I am unreasonable too!?!? What the fuck is going on here!?!? Be it our Chris who I lend a bike to and he fucking 'loses it', not to mention the trouble I had getting that bike as a replacement for the first one Jake 'lost'. Be it my crazed fucking aunt who tries stabbing me with a screwdriver for being three days behind with the rent. Be it our Ant who makes a killing out of me, constantly lies to me about the fucking money he makes, makes out he is doing me a good deed whilst I get the scivvy jobs and he earns three or more times my rate? Not only that he tries making me out to be a cunt to my whole family after I've been there wind, rain or fucking shine. You are all just horrible wastes of fucking oxygen. The majority of you i've given hundreds if not thousands through the years and most importantly my friendship which is fucking priceless and you've all bit my fucking hand, every last one of you. Why was I born among fucking greedy bastard, careless, dishonorable scum who consider themselves otherwise. Fucking parasites. Makes me laugh how some people would look at my introvert ways and think it is sad, no it is fucking logic, experience shows that people are the scum of the Earth, they will skip over whatever details suits them, they will lei, cheat and steal to get what they want, we are living in a pretty faced version of fucking hell, preaching morals and values then betraying every last one of them. Fucking pretenders, all of you, the sooner you all take your last breath the better. This is not the best way to deal with your issues Lee.
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Post by billmcelligott on Apr 21, 2014 23:39:59 GMT
Here in the UK whenever we go to the Doctor these days they ask ' Have you ever been depressed or felt suicidal ?'
I answer - 'I have had 4 heart attacks, had heart surgery, six by-pass. I lost my house, lost all the money I had. I can just about pay to live on a week to week basis. I have various other ill health problems.
I am entitled to be bloody depressed'.
However I do feel for others that have problems no matter what they are.I have been very lucky in some ways and not so lucky in others. But you deal with the cards that are delt to you.
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Post by sammy on Apr 22, 2014 12:49:16 GMT
Here in the UK whenever we go to the Doctor these days they ask ' Have you ever been depressed or felt suicidal ?' I answer - 'I have had 4 heart attacks, had heart surgery, six by-pass. I lost my house, lost all the money I had. I can just about pay to live on a week to week basis. I have various other ill health problems. I am entitled to be bloody depressed'. However I do feel for others that have problems no matter what they are.I have been very lucky in some ways and not so lucky in others. But you deal with the cards that are delt to you. Whoa Bill! Sorry to hear it, but glad we still have you! You are right though, its always easier to compare our grasses to the ones on the other side of the fence. You might see bright flourishing grass, until you get there and realize it had poor drainage and quickly turns to a muddy mess. My wife is dealing with this still, comparing what others have and what we don't . I get this from my son too, but he is 7 and I can't blame him. I do pour out the words almost daily though "be happy with what ya got". A good one for moving ahead is "you don't know what you can do, until you know what you have first"
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Post by sammy on Apr 22, 2014 12:52:40 GMT
As you can see I had quit ea destructive lifestyle and try to pick up the pieces. A few years back I started to change dramatically, I cut the majority of 'dead weight', turned vegetarian, quit smoking, quit weed, quit alcohol, quit junk foods, starting eating organic. BTW the dude who broke my family up, he was my age and was screwing my mum as my dad gave his heart and soul trying to make his band successful.. We gave everything to that business and they destroyed it. Is all this me bringing these unfortunate events to myself with a poor state of mind?? I can believe it but can I break the cycle?? It appears not, my life has been a huge shitstorm. I spent so many years wishing to die I almost did die, yet I clung on to life.... Why??? This experience of life has been all lies, betrayal, adultery, addiction, this is hell. I do not want to be here but can not let go. Why? I need a new life, I need to live, I need all this horrible shit to go away, I need to be truly happy with good cause to be, why am I in hell. where is the good. Seek reference "Law of Attraction". There is also a very good and recent movie about this called "The Secret".
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Post by billmcelligott on Apr 22, 2014 14:23:21 GMT
I believe that the answer to just about all things, as Mr. Miyagi says 'best karate is still is within you, Daniel san'.
The human body and also the human brain has an wonderful capacity to defend itself. We the human have tha bility to completely overthink things and hence cause all sorts of crazy distortions.
When I was in hospital I was questioned a number of times becuse I did not seem to be worried or concerned. I replied to the Doctor 'look what will be will be. Your doing your best, I am trying my hardest to stay alive. If I dont make it, we have no cause to blame anyone'.
The one certain thing in life is death. Accept that inevitability and life will improve.
Fear - “Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself”: FDR’s First Inaugural Address Franklin D. Roosevelt.
The healthy fear of death is what keeps us moving on. By the acceptance of this inevitable outcome you start to take control of that fear. Heroes are either exstremely stupid or just in contol enough to conquer that fear for a set time.
My Doctor came to me and asked if I would talk to the man in the next room, he was in panic mode and he thought it might help. I went to chat to him, he was in a wheelchair and his leg was in a cast. I asked about his health and what was he in for. He was having two stents put in. He was worrying about not pulling through. Well stents are a bit like having a tooth pulled these days. I asked ' how old are you ?' - he said '79'. 'Blimey ' I said 'how old do you want to get then' it took about 5 seconds for the look of horror to go and then he laughed - a bit too much I think, I had to call the nurse to make sure he was OK. But you could see the relief on his face when he realised he was not the centre of the Universe and life has a beginning and an end. Your job is to make the bit inbetween as good as you can make it. But perfection is not available. Easy to say I know, just look inside and forgive yourself for the mistakes, I have loads of errors that I have had to forgive myself for. Not forgotten just forgiven.
The new life is still within you leeg san.
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Post by billmcelligott on Apr 22, 2014 14:27:11 GMT
Hi sammy Yes dealing with life is not so easy. In many ways I am the riches man on earth. Here is my treasure. My Grandson Billy - I have 14 Gand Kids - 4 Kids and a Wife that thinks I am stupid but loyal. I was a playboy in my younger days and I guess I am paying for that now, too fat and too old to bounce back like the old days. But the richest of them all.
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Post by sammy on Apr 22, 2014 21:40:39 GMT
AWWW!!! Cute kid! Such a fun age! That's a lot of grand kids WOW!! HAHA Busy kids! wives have the best things to say about their husbands don't they? Ya getting old sure does make things harder. As your picture shows its worth every second of it though!
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Post by peter2 on Apr 23, 2014 8:28:05 GMT
... I have started yoga practice this week doing daily session, in the first session upon the final position my eyes were twitching something crazy and white/indigo colours were flashing behind my eyes, something said this was energy and to delve into it but the voice in the head saying this prevented me from truly delving into it! It seems that there are a lot of stresses in your system. If you take it slowly then you are more likely to have a smooth process.
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Post by sammy on Apr 23, 2014 15:32:48 GMT
Growth is hard. Im pretty sure most of us here are aware of its trials HAHA We are here for each other anytime!
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Post by william on Apr 25, 2014 20:35:48 GMT
Lee
At present you seem to be in the victim role. You had it good and then lost it all. You want to believe that others are responsible for the way things happened because you feel justified to do so. This feeling will continue to get in the way of your healing. Forgive and move forward. You have a friend in your 'higher self' who will remain hidden to your senses as a passenger in the vehicle of your daily decisions whilst you drive that vehicle erratically because you are pulled back and forth between negative and positive emotions. I empathize with your position...it is somewhat reminiscent of the biblical story of the prodigal son...you have not quite 'returned' yet. Remove yourself from the victim role. It serves you no good purpose. There are others worse off than you are in relation to their position in the world, yet more at ease with their self within those positions. Seek that place sincerely, and it will eventually be yours.
In Love
William.
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Post by sammy on Apr 27, 2014 14:54:39 GMT
Same ole grind here. Working on sanding and painting a bunk bed, kind of funny though. Im doing it for my neighbors kids and they had the color bought before I started. But its the exact same blue as on this forum. My son won his baseball game yesterday! Woot! For some reason his batting totally went down from when he started. I think he started thinking about it too much, and not feeling out the hit. But were gonna start doing batting cages to help him figure it out again. Its his first year and we tell him he is doing amazing anyway, cause he is. SPRING IS HERE! ACHOO! And allergy season, started out with some kind of nasty cold from my sons school that we all had. We are all out of it now at least. ---------------------------- This just crossed my mind. I think it can really benefit anyone on many levels. I have found it always helps to express/define what churns inside ourselves. Is there a medium you could do this with? Putting a face to the emotions can help give ourselves something easier overcome. I usually write or draw, but any art or talent can tell its story. Make yourself its designer though. Give the emotions a definition separate from yourself. You could include who you want to be in this story. Or like with a demon series I drew (rough draft), it would be the observer who includes themselves in its story and not my design filling in the blanks from picture to personal experience. This practice has helped me create something to overcome and know what to grab onto, toward becoming who I wanted to be. Instead of having it all flutter around me in a massive looming chaotic mess of he said/she said. It kind of reminds me of a black mist being trapped(sucked) into a gem. Except the mist is being changed into the gem instead. Not being trapped(able to get out) but having a new body to live in the medium/paper(and away from you HAHA). Now all I see when I look at the demon series, is how bad I was at proportions when I was a teenager HAHA.
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Post by sammy on Apr 30, 2014 13:27:00 GMT
Cool, congrats on the game! What age is your son? I remember visiting uSA for first tme at 12yo and having a crack in the batting cages, those things come with some force, I was hoping to hit home runs!! My sitch sound a little similar also. I started writing lyrics for a couple of years when I was at the lowest point, reading them back resurfaced the energy that went into them, kinda disturbing so i'd deleted them mostly.. Written a fair amount of music through the years, back in the day it was happy music, fast pace. After the probs faced, writing, in fact doing music in general, frequently surfaced a lot of difficult emotions and memories, i written a few pieces i felt were good for the classic rock number whe. Attempting to rebuild/pick up the pieces however they never got used, i always felt those guys were screwing me over with the record deal and abracadarbra... They did! It feels as though where I am at is the point very close to complete desensitisation and shift in patterns, beaten to the point of no longer caring or seeing it as being beaten, no longer knowing what to believe or feeling anything to get fired up about. At the same time oases start to appear, however i'm so used to having no water and running to oases only for the, to disappear that they do not excite me to the point of sticking around. It's rather strange i've literally felt the moments of inspiration recently as they surface and funny enough, something completely relevant to my inspiration has surfaced in the physical, an opportunity/abstract coincidence etc. however before i follow through I see and feel it turn to dust through old beliefs surfacing. In recent weeks I have been approached by 2 bands in the usa looking for drummers, around 3 uk bands, a cruise musician agent and a wedding covers band, in the space of a few weeks they have all approached me!? At first i have been relatively keen and the signs have been good the. Thoughts surface about time wasters, people not up to the task etc. I pick up on reasons they are not star material as i want to hit the top, then without any further communication or direct intervention, the potential unfolding collapses, we stop contact, first contact was all good to go, the. I have these thoughts and it halts, with no logical reason other than my negative thoughts, it's very strange. All a part of figuring this stuff out though methinks. If it doesn't feel right then maybe it is not right, and maybe there is a way to change the thought patterns and beliefs so that you consciously make it feel nothing but right to manifest your true desire however surely unless an adept or raised in the best way possible this process can involve a lot of trial and error and challenging cricumstance My son is 7, and yes those cages are startling fast HAHA. Can really make your hands sting on a solid hit too. It seems to me you are over most of your boulders that hold you back, and you have most of your path cleared for a run through. It is important you feel right in your work, just don't let that feeling hold you back too far. Sometimes a step in the wrong direction will tell us what direction to go, if no direction can be found to begin with. I also had a lot of work come up. Happens a lot in spring ive noticed. I also get a lot more active thoughts on my theories unknowns. Truly a time for growing. -------------- I was also the target for bullies in school, at 15 I was 5'4" 180 lbs. Same weight I am now but a foot shorter HAHA, and seriously I looked like Pugsley from Adam's family. I always played video games in my basement, so my skin got really pale and dark circles under my eyes. I had skin problems too, so my hair was always buzz cut. I never got tough though, it just wasn't in me. Even in football I was good at sacking someone, but I hated it every time and I was only good at it because I was so scared of getting sacked myself. I have been in one real fight, and I lost horribly. I more or less have been forced to use words to get out of things. Or run, but its just as hard for me to run from my responsibilities.
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