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Post by whistler on Jan 19, 2005 20:30:24 GMT
On the Pavement of "1710" there was the Wooden box containing I presume the Tracing Boards. When the lodge is open is the Tracing Board of the degree displayed so all can see it. We display the Board of the degree on an easle in the s/w corner
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Post by staffs on Jan 19, 2005 20:35:56 GMT
The tracing board is displayed in the degree the lodge has been opened in.
At Brighton it is in the North but other lodges display them differently and i have commonly sen them displayed in the south at the JW ped.
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Post by whistler on Jan 19, 2005 20:45:59 GMT
Yes but is it taken from the box and put on an easle how is it displayed
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Post by staffs on Jan 19, 2005 21:35:42 GMT
As in the case of the second degree TB this is placed on an easel when an explanation is given
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Post by Jumile on Jan 20, 2005 0:13:11 GMT
In the 5 different lodges I've attended since my Initiation, I've seen the tracing board 1) in the South, 2) in the North, and 3) not at all. All have been resting either on a ground-level easel, or on the floor itself. And whenever they have been displayed, they've been one of two images - so even that's inconsistent (as an EA, that means I'd only have seen each lodge's EA TB). We're all different. Isn't it great?
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Post by whistler on Jan 20, 2005 7:37:09 GMT
OK the Ashlars, The Rough by the JW's Pedastal The smooth suspended by the Lewis on a corner of the Pavement. Another smooth by the SW We only have the first two May I ask about the second smooth
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Post by Doric on Jan 20, 2005 7:51:37 GMT
Our TB's are placed 1st Degree in fron of the JW's pedestal, 2nd in fornt of the SW, and 3rd in front of the WM. When their explanations are given, they are placed on an easel.
Our Ashlars, Rough on the JW's pedestal, Smooth suspended from the Lewis on the SW's pedestal
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Post by whistler on Jan 20, 2005 8:19:33 GMT
Our TB's are placed 1st Degree in fron of the JW's pedestal, 2nd in fornt of the SW, and 3rd in front of the WM. When their explanations are given, they are placed on an easel. Our Ashlars, Rough on the JW's pedestal, Smooth suspended from the Lewis on the SW's pedestal As is ours do you also have a perfect ashlar that is not hung on a Lewis, as we saw last night
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Post by Doric on Jan 20, 2005 8:37:55 GMT
Nope!
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Post by taylorsman on Jan 20, 2005 8:52:09 GMT
TBs, usually against the JW's Pedestal and shown to him by the Deacons when he nods to indicate that the correct one is to be displayed then turned round for the Brethren to see. As Lee states in the Main Temple at Brighton the TBs are on the wall behind the Secretary and Treasurer in the North and are displayed by moving a sliding panel. I have also seen TBs in a "Chest" in the centre of the Lodge under the G and the appropriate one is taken out and displayed there as needed.
Ashlars - Rough on the JW's Pedestal with the PR attached, Smooth attached to the Lewis usually on the SW's Pedestal with the Level Attached but I have also seen it on the floor in the Centre of the Lodge under the G. I have not as yet seen a second Smooth Ashlar in a Lodge.
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Post by whistler on Jan 20, 2005 9:02:50 GMT
You mention the "G". In the lodge room we went into there was no sign of lights or a G in the roof, as I would have expected. Would it have been removed before we entered though unless it was under a movable canopy I didn't see any sign of any fittings
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Post by middlepillar on Jan 20, 2005 9:31:28 GMT
Many Temples/Lodge Rooms in UK do not have a 'G' in the centre of the room, I always feel this is unfortunate but it is the case.
I visit a Taylors Lodge in Wellingborough and they have there TB's as Steve has said in a Chest in the Centre under the 'G' and it is very much part of the opening ceremonies taking each TB out and placing them on top of the Chest.
Steve was the place where you saw it done a Taylors Lodge or I suppose more probably a Lodge where they happen to have been brought up with The Chest in the center? I must admit I have not visited any of the other Lodges that meet at Wellingborough perhaps they all use the same system (They are mainly emulation!).
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Post by hollandr on Jan 20, 2005 10:15:37 GMT
My understanding is that the TB is properly in the East so that when the brethren look to the East, the place of light, their eyes naturally fall upon the representation of the Divine Plan.
And while it took me years to understand it, the EA TB is a reasonable representation of the Divine Plan for apprentices by which I mean most humans.
Cheers
Russell
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Post by taylorsman on Jan 20, 2005 11:26:31 GMT
This was in a Taylor's Lodge meeting in Sussex, Worthing or Chichester I can't remember which. The Ceremonial attached to the Tracing Boards was most impressive as was the two Deacons and DC crossing their Wands above the IPM as he knelt as appropriate to the Degree in question to adjust the S&Q on the VSL.
I too regret when the "G" is not present in a Temple, to me it is as important as its presence in the Centre of the S&Q on a Masonic Ring, I wouldn't wear one where it was missing. To me "G" stands for God , as stated at the end of the explanation of the Second Degree TB. Others may prefer a different signification for that letter in Freemasonry.
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Post by Trinityman on Jan 20, 2005 11:33:00 GMT
Our TB's are placed 1st Degree in fron of the JW's pedestal, 2nd in fornt of the SW, and 3rd in front of the WM. When their explanations are given, they are placed on an easel. Our Ashlars, Rough on the JW's pedestal, Smooth suspended from the Lewis on the SW's pedestal Same for us. 1st & 2nd degree TBs are turned by the JD and the 3rd by the IPM just after he has fiddled with his equipment on the VSL
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Post by taylorsman on Jan 20, 2005 11:37:32 GMT
Yes I have always thought that Emulation invests that action with all the Dignity of placing a parking permit on the windscreen of one's car!
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Post by Jumile on Jan 20, 2005 12:59:00 GMT
Hey, there'll be no bagging of Emulsion on this forum!
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Post by taylorsman on Jan 20, 2005 13:04:27 GMT
A matter of NOT painting it "Matt Black" then?
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Post by Jumile on Jan 20, 2005 17:19:46 GMT
Oh, very punny.
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Post by whistler on Jan 20, 2005 18:27:15 GMT
Re the lack of G, "need to be a little careful here." The lighted G is essential to our ritual and is pointed to, at opening and closing and at certain times during rituals. It also has great esoteric importance shining down on our work
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