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Post by maat on Sept 28, 2005 3:37:17 GMT
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Post by hollandr on Sept 28, 2005 3:40:50 GMT
Maat
Do you want to talk about ladders?
Cheers
Russell
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Post by maat on Sept 28, 2005 6:47:57 GMT
Hi Russel - I liked what you had to say on the other thread. It's one of those "its all so obvious when you finally see it" things. We had a very fine talk given in our Lodge once where it was pointed out that EVERYTHING is all there in the Lodge even at the EA level. He was right too... even some Brn who were 50 year members were amazed when things were bought to their attention. It made for some wonderful conversation over the festive board.
From the link above I found the following sentances of interest.
"...Another author in this survey is George H. Steinmetz. In his book Freemasonry: Its Hidden Meaning he also tackles the seven steps. He makes the cryptic statement: "…the seven steps have a deep occult meaning which we will merely mention here. They are the vibrations producing colour and sound."
…The shaman knows the mystery of the break-through in plane. ...the essential schema is always to be seen, ...there are three great cosmic regions, which can be successively traversed because they are linked together by a central axis."
Makes one want to revisit the lodge Sevens, the three raised steps, the plumbline... and so it goes - ah those good vibrations.
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Post by hollandr on Sept 28, 2005 9:29:50 GMT
Maat
I prefer a ladder with 49 rungs so that it equals the subplanes you will find in Alice Bailey. Rising on the planes is the kabbalistic exercise of ascending Jacob's ladder
The 3 raised steps are likely a reference to Osiris who was referred in some egyptian text (forgotten which) as the god of 3 steps.
The plumbline however comes from the Central Sun (Alcyone) into the Temple in the Heavens so that that Sun is always at its meridian for that temple
Cheers
Russell
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Post by maat on Sept 29, 2005 0:13:20 GMT
The 49 (7 x 7) steps to which you refer indicates quite well that one symbol is relevent and meaningful on many different levels. I think the Rosicrucians have a similar teaching and the Theosophists also.
The 3 steps that are often overlooked by Master Masons are those they encounter when the signs are given....and I am not referring to the steps on the floor.
I get lost on the Forum - there is so much everywhere - is there a thread just for the symbolism of the ladder? (I can't even remember where I have posted sometimes..getting old).
Maat
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Michael
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Post by Michael on Sept 30, 2005 8:40:26 GMT
Maat, a very interesting link. I followed it and ended up in an article entiteled 'Initiation and the Rites of Freemasonry
And right at the bottom is the piece:
"Too much attention is being brought to bear on our past in looking for historical links. The proof is in the pudding. And there is every reason to look to the future and develop Freemasonry to be an ever more efficient and effective initiatory society."
Very apt I thought.
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Post by maat on Oct 7, 2005 3:11:53 GMT
Thanks for the feedback Michael - Tom Worrel is a very interesting man. I must revisit the site - so much to do and so little time! This voyage of discovery is so exciting .. and so frustrating sometimes.
Cheers Maat
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