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Post by sid on Mar 30, 2007 23:44:12 GMT
Can anyone help me to find the source of the image/drawing from the 14th century, please? It shows the world with the sun and the moon with a man on his knees looking through and into the cosmic.
Thanks
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Post by jmd on Mar 31, 2007 0:14:09 GMT
From what I know of this woodcut, it is NOT from the 14th century, but rather a woodcut illustration that first appeared in either the late 18th or 19th century.
I'll see if I can find my references when I tried to pursue the same question a number of years ago.
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Post by Tamrin on Mar 31, 2007 2:42:12 GMT
Bro. Sid,Is this image of which you asked? It is the " Flammarion Woodcut." Follow the link for more info.
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Post by jmd on Mar 31, 2007 2:58:27 GMT
Nice to see that someone's put together this material on Wikipedia - I'll stop looking for my notes!
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Post by sid on Mar 31, 2007 7:51:27 GMT
Yes that's the one. Thank you very much for the link and the information. I have a copy which is a little wider and is not coloured. Great help, thanks again
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Post by sid on Mar 31, 2007 20:15:33 GMT
Can you give me the source of this coloured version (below), please? Bro. Sid,Is this image of which you asked? It is the " Flammarion Woodcut." Follow the link for more info.
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Post by Tamrin on Mar 31, 2007 22:06:51 GMT
Bro. Sid asked:> Can you give me the source of this coloured version ... please? A Google image search for 'flammarion woodcut' will produce many coloured versions. I understand that the original was first published in black and white. If you go to the Wikipedia link and see the black and white image in the top right corner you will find where you can click on (See also colored version). This version is darker than the image I provided. I think I copied that version from this site, although its usage there is obviously not original.
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Post by sid on Mar 31, 2007 23:10:38 GMT
Thanks. I've checked the whole of the web and found many different versions, but they are all from the 1888 book which only has the square/framed version. The version that I have is complete and rectangular in shape, but I have no source information. Bro. Sid asked:> Can you give me the source of this coloured version ... please? A Google image search for 'flammarion woodcut' will produce many coloured versions. I understand that the original was first published in black and white. If you go to the Wikipedia link and see the black and white image in the top right corner you will find where you can click on (See also colored version). This version is darker than the image I provided. I think I copied that version from this site, although its usage there is obviously not original. I think that I have found one modern version that looks a bit like your coloured version. It is at: www.alchemywebsite.com/bookshop/A2_prints.htmlIt is not the same colouring, and I think that your coloured version is one of the best that I have seen thus far.
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Post by wayseer on Mar 31, 2007 23:16:01 GMT
Now, there's a symbol!!!
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Post by jmd on Apr 1, 2007 0:57:49 GMT
Sid, you say that the version you have "is complete and rectangular in shape".
Would it be possible to show it? (if you don't have a site to upload it to, I'm willing to put in on mine and link to it for all to see - simply send it by email as a .jpg or .tif file)
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Post by corab on Apr 1, 2007 17:32:19 GMT
Is anyone else reminded of "The Truman Show" watching that image?
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Post by vadro on Apr 1, 2007 18:23:38 GMT
Is anyone else reminded of "The Truman Show" watching that image? Yes.
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Post by sid on Apr 1, 2007 20:56:24 GMT
Sid, you say that the version you have "is complete and rectangular in shape". Would it be possible to show it? (if you don't have a site to upload it to, I'm willing to put in on mine and link to it for all to see - simply send it by email as a .jpg or .tif file) Well it looks the same but just a little older. There is about an inch more space for the Sun on the right. The version from 1888 looks like a modernised version of the original. Here are 2 links for more detail: groups.msn.com/IserlohnerEnglishClub/_whatsnew.msnwgroups.msn.com/IserlohnerEnglishClub/fm.msnw?Page=Last
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Post by Bettendorf on Apr 6, 2007 8:50:47 GMT
Interesting. I remember this image being on the cover of Stephan Hoeller's "Gnosticism" book.
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