Y Mahomed
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Post by Y Mahomed on Jul 27, 2007 10:00:49 GMT
So what is it? This language spoken to us through the realms of existence down to the Cosmic language, one that can be observed anywhere anytime. Do you believe the universe speaks to you? If so how?
I'll tell that at one point in my life I thought I was loosing it when every action I observed, every sound that I heard had a meaning. Think im crazy?
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Post by hollandr on Jul 27, 2007 21:12:18 GMT
>Do you believe the universe speaks to you? If so how?
One of the ways of looking for the universe speaking is to abandon the idea of coincidence. Then every event, no matter how trivial, has a potential message
For example, once long ago at 8:50 pm I was sitting in the dark against a tower in northern Scotland and my companion asked something about enlightenment. Just as I answered the tower floodlights went on. Possibly it was a coincidence or possibly the universe was adding to the conversation on enlightenment
Cheers
Russell
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Post by lauderdale on Jul 27, 2007 21:35:07 GMT
I don't believe in coincidence nor in the Universe being random , hence I have no time for Darwinian Evolutionary Theory, being a supporter of "Intelligent Design"
I feel that the Universe speaks to me when I look up at a clear night sky and consider the work of the Great Architect or look at a Dragonfly hovering over a river or pond then catching another insect on the wing.
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Post by Tamrin on Jul 28, 2007 2:06:04 GMT
One of the ways of looking for the universe speaking is to abandon the idea of coincidence. Then every event, no matter how trivial, has a potential message Find meaning where you will. If you choose not to be a slave to coincidence, you may find meaning in The Law of Truly Large Numbers: That a particular specified event or coincidence will occur is very unlikely. That some astonishing unspecified events will occur is certain. That is why remarkable coincidences are noted in hindsight, not predicted with foresight. Another approach is given by Marion Zimmer Bradley in The Mists of Avalon, p.672. If you would have the message of the Gods to direct your life, look for that which repeats, again and again; for this is the message given you by the Gods, the karmic lesson you must learn for this incarnation. It comes again and again until you have made it part of your soul and your enduring spirit.
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Post by Y Mahomed on Jul 28, 2007 11:12:41 GMT
One of the ways of looking for the universe speaking is to abandon the idea of coincidence. Then every event, no matter how trivial, has a potential message There is only fate and no chance, chance is the word used for fate unrecognized. A thing quite similiar happened to me, only thing is i was getting angry and as I was my anger reached its peak the lights tripped and we were in darkness, some would say that it is coincidence, I say there is NO such thing as coincidence. I see both your and my experiencec as dramatic effect from the universe.
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Post by Tamrin on Jul 28, 2007 12:42:21 GMT
I'll tell that at one point in my life I thought I was loosing it when every action I observed, every sound that I heard had a meaning. I say there is NO such thing as coincidence. Bro. Playto,I am an integral part the universe with a very, very important message for you: If you find billboards have personal messages which have special meanings meant for you, if TV actors are talking to you or if absolutely nothing seems to be simply coincidental, please, please SEEK HELP. While everyone has some degree of Magical Thinking, this should not interfere with our ability to function as rational beings. This is especially important where one imagines oneself to posses supernatural powers or has other delusions of grandeur. If you are unduly susceptible to such thinking, I would not recommend Freemasonry for you.
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Post by Y Mahomed on Jul 29, 2007 21:15:52 GMT
I am an integral part the universe with a very, very important message for you: If you find billboards have personal messages which have special meanings meant for you, if TV actors are talking to you or if absolutely nothing seems to be simply coincidental, please, please SEEK HELP. While everyone has some degree of Magical Thinking, this should not interfere with our ability to function as rational beings. This is especially important where one imagines oneself to posses supernatural powers or has other delusions of grandeur. If you are unduly susceptible to such thinking, I would not recommend Freemasonry for you. Nowhere did I state that the messages I interpreted from the universe made me irrational, I am very rational I hold down a job as a Porject Manager, and as far as having delusions of grandeur, well, thats just how you interpret my thought behind the activities occuring around me. And whether or not you suggest Freemasonry for me, which I dont think you in any position to do, or not I WILL become one, come hell or high water. And as far getting help goes, my psych prescribed air!
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Post by Tamrin on Jul 29, 2007 21:42:33 GMT
Bro. Playto,
My apologies for any offense. However your statements were extreme and I felt a duty of care to express my concerns. You had yourself said that at one time you thought you were "loosing it." I sincerely hope we were both wrong. Go in peace.
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Post by maat on Jul 29, 2007 23:47:00 GMT
Another approach is given by Marion Zimmer Bradley in The Mists of Avalon, p.672. If you would have the message of the Gods to direct your life, look for that which repeats, again and again; for this is the message given you by the Gods, the karmic lesson you must learn for this incarnation. It comes again and again until you have made it part of your soul and your enduring spirit. Sounds like coincidences to me. I think coincidences can happen, but if they are repetitive then that is when I start to take notice. So I both believe and not believe in coincidences. May I suggest that that which is relevant to us at a point in time 'is noticed'. Therefore we are more apt to particularly see what is appropriate for our mind frame or circumstances. Nothing changes apart from what we notice. (No different to seeing a world full of pregnant ladies, when you are pregnant (I noticed this coincidence when I was pregnant). If what is happening to us is of a physical nature, we will notice other physical things of like nature. If of the mind or spirit, likewise. Maat
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Post by maat on Jul 29, 2007 23:53:22 GMT
I know for sure that 'something' is communicating with me when I start thinking with words that I don't know the meaning of. I have to go to the dictionary. Now I am not saying it is God or the Universe, but it is something that is smarter and kinder than me (and I'm pretty smart and kind ) I like to think of it as part of my Centre, that place from which I cannot err. Maat PS - My most favoured and reliable source of 'communications' are via dreams.
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Post by maat on Jul 30, 2007 0:10:21 GMT
I'll tell that at one point in my life I thought I was loosing it when every action I observed, every sound that I heard had a meaning. Think I'm crazy? Not in the least... sounds similar to the descriptions of the experience-rs of enlightenment. Physical things can be discerned by using sense, reason or logic. Spiritual things can be discerned by spiritual means, which, if Freemasonry is a guide, is by going within. Sensing what is true without the interference of organized learning. I would say that you might discern much from the symbolism of Masonry, playto. I like you name by the way.... sometimes we can take things too seriously... we can do well to play and enjoy this game of life and learning. Maat
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Post by Tamrin on Jul 30, 2007 1:01:26 GMT
So I both believe and not believe in coincidences. As do I. Similarly, while I put aside most dreams, some are remarkably apropos and I bear them in mind. Those coincidences which are especially meaningful constitute special cases, which Jung referred to as Synchronicity. Where EVERY instance of coincidence is held to be meaningful, then I am concerned.
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Post by maat on Jul 30, 2007 6:04:13 GMT
One of my very favourite words!!! Maat
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Post by Y Mahomed on Jul 30, 2007 6:04:30 GMT
Bro. Playto,My apologies for any offense. However you statements were extreme and I felt a duty of care to express my concerns. You had yourself said that at one time you thought you were "loosing it." I sincerely hope we were both wrong. Go in peace. Apology accepted, I was just voicing my experiences, and for you to make the statements you did were wrong. That aside, Namaste and Salaam unto you.
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Post by penfold on Jul 30, 2007 6:49:16 GMT
Personally I believe in Universal Resonance, i.e. the 'world' and its components are connected by threads and joins that we don't necessarily have recognisable 'knowledge' of, more a deeper underlying instinctive natural born consciousness of our place in the world/universe. Sometimes we are more receptive to this consciousness than others.
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Post by Y Mahomed on Jul 30, 2007 8:24:52 GMT
I like you name by the way.... Thank You
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Post by ruffashlar on Aug 9, 2007 16:01:15 GMT
And what is that language, yahyaa mahomed, in your opinion?
Arabic, by any chance? There is a strong tradition, as we know, that Classical Arabic, the language in which God chose the Qur'an to be transmitted to Man, is literally the medium of communion between Earth and Heaven.
Another Semitic language, a close relative, has an even older tradition of the same hallowed status.
It is I suppose natural that we should ascribe a cosmic dimension to that mode of expression which is most human. Mankind constantly imagines the Divine in his own image: that is the meaning of symbol. But a cosmic language is a symbol, nonetheless. We should aim to interpret the symbol, not try to bone up on Angelic Conversation courses from Berlitz.
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Post by wayseer on Aug 10, 2007 13:23:57 GMT
The cosmic language is math - which leaves me in the illiterate class.
Two things I regret - not learning math and music.
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Post by gljimt on Aug 14, 2007 23:43:02 GMT
The cosmic language is math - which leaves me in the illiterate class. Two things I regret - not learning math and music. But music is math so you only need to regret one thing. Good thing I came along to let you know that or else you'd be going around regretting two things when you only need to regret one The universe language is not math is is mearly a number. The number that is found everywhere. The only real clue to the divine spark in everything and that is the Golden Ratio (Sometimes called Divine Ratio)
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Post by thedixiemason on Aug 15, 2007 0:02:35 GMT
Dr. and Bro. Edgar Mitchell calls it the Quantum Hologram.
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