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Post by thedixiemason on Aug 15, 2007 0:52:49 GMT
Is it just me, or does the poem by John Wycliffe (or some other Lollard) have evidence of Rosicrucian influence?
The Plowman's Tale is a story about a Pelican, a Grifon, and a Phoenix.
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Post by thedixiemason on Aug 15, 2007 0:55:12 GMT
If so, it was written in 1380. Big deal right? Well, Frater CRC was supposedly born in 1378, so how could he have been the real founder if he was only 2 years old when The Plowman's Tale was written??
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Post by jmd on Aug 16, 2007 13:38:49 GMT
Or alternatively, John Wycliffe was unknowingly instrumental in what later developed as Rosicrucianism.
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Post by sid on Aug 16, 2007 23:37:25 GMT
Interesting, Is it just me, or does the poem by John Wycliffe (or some other Lollard) have evidence of Rosicrucian influence? The Plowman's Tale is a story about a Pelican, a Grifon, and a Phoenix. Go to this URL and look at the drawing: special.lib.gla.ac.uk/exhibns/chaucer/works.html
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Post by sid on Aug 16, 2007 23:41:24 GMT
Salve, If so, it was written in 1380. Big deal right? Well, Frater CRC was supposedly born in 1378, so how could he have been the real founder if he was only 2 years old when The Plowman's Tale was written?? The number 1378 is always present within the 24 'hour' clock of God. It is also the foundation of the Temple, and a mathematical formula. Perhaps the 'opening' of the Vault of CRC is also the birth of a new cycle?
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Post by thedixiemason on Aug 16, 2007 23:48:01 GMT
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Post by thedixiemason on Aug 16, 2007 23:50:16 GMT
Sid, what is the significants of the number 1378?
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Post by sid on Aug 17, 2007 15:14:19 GMT
Greetings, Sid, what is the significants of the number 1378? The triangulation of the number 52 will give you the number 1378 which was first mentioned in writing in the Confessio Fraternitatis (1615), and given as the year of the birth of Christian Rosenkreutz. The discovery of the Vault, its opening, and the discovery of the grave of CR was written in the Fama Fraternitatis (1614) and the year 1604 being claimed as the start of a new cycle of the RC. 1604 was also the year that the work called the Naometria was completed. This was the second version known as the Naometria [Nova]. From the year of the death of the last GM of the KT to the year 1604, the axis of which is the year 1459, which is the year of the Chemical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz. This was first published in 1616. Three times the number 52 will give you 156 which just happens to be the value of the word Zion/Sion. The number 156 (13x12) is the total value of the 4 foundation stones of the Temple as presented in the Naometria. 12, 24, 48, and 72 Each stone of the Temple has been numbered i.e., 12 above & 12 below, so one is looking at a square/qube. The complete Temple when placed within the clock of god, or vise versa, will also give you the number of years for each sign of the zidiac, i.e., 24 x 90 = 2160. The total of the numbers of each stone on the base also equal 156 and the same numbers when triangulated will give you the number 1378 i.e., above 144 and below 156 = 300 which is the triangulation of the number 24.
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Post by thedixiemason on Aug 17, 2007 16:52:53 GMT
"From the year of the death of the last GM of the KT to the year 1604, the axis of which is the year 1459, which is the year of the Chemical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz."
Do you think that shows a direct link between Rosicrucians and the Templars??
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Post by sid on Aug 17, 2007 17:40:44 GMT
"From the year of the death of the last GM of the KT to the year 1604, the axis of which is the year 1459, which is the year of the Chemical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz." Do you think that shows a direct link between Rosicrucians and the Templars?? I do think that there is a direct link but proving it will be difficult. In the Naometria the joining of the Lily and the rose is mentioned and the value of both when added together will give you the year that the German Order was formed on the battlfield of Acre. If my memory serves me well it was in the year 1190
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Post by thedixiemason on Aug 17, 2007 17:57:29 GMT
From reading Manly P. Hall's Secret Teachings of All Ages, and from reading Bloodline of the Holy Grail, by L.Gardner, I am inclined to believe that the brother's of the rosy cross were a transitional body between the time the Templars were dissolved, and Freemasonry came to be.
Like you said, it would still be difficult to prove.
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