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Post by staffs on Nov 12, 2004 17:46:05 GMT
KT also seems to be quite popular in Sussex but i am told be a member i know who recently joined that they only allow 300 Swords at any one time in the province and that it is currently running at about 295. ??
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Post by middlepillar on Nov 12, 2004 18:52:17 GMT
KT also seems to be quite popular in Sussex but i am told be a member i know who recently joined that they only allow 300 Swords at any one time in the province and that it is currently running at about 295. ?? Staffs I can honestly say I have neve heard this! I have heard being promoted to the 32nd Degree in Rose Croix is filling dead mens shoes, because you do not get promoted until someone falls off his perch! But never anything relating to KT (Iwould of thought they would be pleased to have the membership!).
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Post by kizzy on Nov 12, 2004 23:05:01 GMT
I haven't heard of this either but do know that in Rose Croix there is as Middlepillar has said there is a limit on 32 and 33 Degree.
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Post by staffs on Nov 13, 2004 11:29:53 GMT
More on additional degrees and the structure of Freemasonry. Is this applicable generally universally or is this structure purely for US (uploaded picture has been deleted by admin)
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Post by Doric on Nov 14, 2004 6:29:09 GMT
Staffs
That's the US structure, as demonstrated by the copyright given in Newark, NJ. For the UK equivalent, refer to "Beyond the Craft" which has a similar table.
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Post by symbol on Nov 18, 2004 13:53:50 GMT
Hermetic Order of The Golden Dawn is considered accessible only after becoming involved with the esoteric side of masonry.
How would one find out about this HOoTGD. I would be very interested, and was wondering how many are in the UK?
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Post by atarnaris on Nov 18, 2004 23:19:59 GMT
Reading through someone's 'masonic cv' the other day there was an entry that stated the following: ...He is also a member of 13 other masonic degrees that he is unable to name' Excuse me for being naive, but are we talking about Regular or Irregular Freemasonry here? Would these Unnamed Orders be quasi-masonic?
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Post by taylorsman on Nov 19, 2004 7:23:32 GMT
I am only in two Orders which are not in the mainline of the Higher Orders those being "Ye Corporation O Squaremen" a Scots Order enacting old style Masonry of Centuries past, and St Thomas of Acon, which is for Knights Templar and commemorates the life and the lessons of St Thomas a Beckett. I am aware of other Orders which I am not in such as Eri, Baldwyn, (restricted to Bristol KTs), CBCS, and of course The Shrine and The Corks. I am not aware of those which cannot be mentioned, but then again how could I be?
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Post by bod on Nov 21, 2004 7:53:43 GMT
This brother was more regular than a dose of syrup of figs...
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Post by ruffashlar on Nov 21, 2004 13:37:56 GMT
"I am not aware of those which cannot be mentioned, but then again how could I be? " Very beautifully put. Forgive my stupidity (an all-too-common plea from me), but I thought the HOGD had been disbanded, as in not pining, but passed on.
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Post by taylorsman on Nov 21, 2004 14:08:44 GMT
Indeed not and there is even a website giving all the Rituals etc.
Trouble is that there is more than one body claiming to be the OGD. Some SRIA members hold that their Supreme Council holds the patents for OGD and will not permit it to be revitalised but I can't see what they could do if someone set it up again and who did not recognise SRIA or any jurisdiction thereof over their activities.
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Post by middlepillar on Nov 21, 2004 17:03:47 GMT
Indeed not and there is even a website giving all the Rituals etc. Trouble is that there is more than one body claiming to be the OGD. Some SRIA members hold that their Supreme Council holds the patents for OGD and will not permit it to be revitalised but I can't see what they could do if someone set it up again and who did not recognise SRIA or any jurisdiction thereof over their activities. Bro Taylorsman, One could say that you are being a little bit of a devil To my knowledge (and I am very confident in this) No member of High Council claims any authority over the GD. Some may well be members But that is a personal choice. But The SRIA claim no authority in respect to GD activities.
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Post by taylorsman on Nov 21, 2004 18:47:44 GMT
Now that is interesting as a high ranking Frater, (no names or pack drill) did tell me that this was the case. However, it is such an uncertain field when one gets to the level of the various Esoteric bodies such as OGD, OTO etc, etc, that it is hard to sort the wheat from the chaff.
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Post by staffs on Nov 24, 2004 18:31:01 GMT
I know about advancement and exalted in mark and chapter but when joining Knights Templar am i right in thinking this is Dubbing as a Knight
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Post by theman on Nov 24, 2004 19:13:46 GMT
Have any of you guys read anything on Reiki. It to has three degrees,and passwords.
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Post by Proton on Jan 9, 2005 4:16:34 GMT
Staffs I am afraid that I am not aware of a numbers quota in KT in Sussex. Nor for the whole craft or a number of the side degrees. I have come across one EC Lodge that operated a quota system with its membership, which was restricted to 30. It was Lodge Babylonia No 4471, and it met in Basra, Iraq!! It seems that someone is giving you duff information. I you look in the current Sussex 2004/05 Yearbook; it shows a membership of 320 in KT. A figure, I might also add, is expected to increase, over the next few years. One is installed as a Knight in KT incidently! Regards Proton
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Post by middlepillar on Jan 9, 2005 10:11:09 GMT
[quote author=staffs l when joining Knights Templar am i right in thinking this is Dubbing as a Knight [/quote] Lee There are several orders where you are 'Knighted' The KT is one of them, you also get 'knighted' in The Rose Croix. The Royal Order of Scotland, The Allied Masonic Degrees,CBCS, Eri and others as well
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Post by Gaudi on Jan 28, 2005 11:23:01 GMT
Now that is interesting as a high ranking Frater, (no names or pack drill) did tell me that this was the case. However, it is such an uncertain field when one gets to the level of the various Esoteric bodies such as OGD, OTO etc, etc, that it is hard to sort the wheat from the chaff. Sometimes people also get confused and mistaken as well. There are quite a number of v. senior SRIA fratres who are involved in what could be called quasi-GD Orders, such as FRC and BOTA. While they are *not* the GD (and FRC is emphatically not), folk unaware of the differences lump them in together because of their perceived relationship. And then you get those that encourage the confusion- as one frater I know who insists on calling his BOTA Chapter grades his 'GD grade' and even in my SRIA College it is becoming increasingly popular to discuss our grades in the GD style- eg 4=7 for the SRIA 4th grade. Roel
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Post by munkholt on Feb 7, 2005 21:32:37 GMT
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