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Post by Zita on Sept 28, 2010 2:40:59 GMT
How about wonder "is it?" Let's tackle the issue. Okay. Is it true that King Solomon had an architect named Hiram Abiff? Is it true that Jesus ascended(levitation) into Heaven? |
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Post by Zita on Sept 28, 2010 2:42:50 GMT
I'm skeptical  |
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Post by Zita on Sept 28, 2010 7:07:45 GMT
How timely... this is in our mainstream daily newspaper today. US Air Force men tell of UFO peace missionsCITING glowing red objects, seven former members of the US Air Force testified today to the presence of UFOs hovering above defence bases. UFO researcher Robert Hastings addressed their witness accounts at the National Press Conference in Washington, saying he believed beings from another world were trying to promote world peace, Stars and Stripes military newspaper reported, "I believe - these gentlemen believe - that this planet is being visited by beings from another world, who, for whatever reason, have taken an interest in the nuclear arms race which began at the end of World War II," Mr Hastings said. He said more than 120 former service members have spotted UFOs above nuclear weapons. In some instances UFOs even deactivated nuclear missiles, Mr Hastings said. "Regarding the missile shutdown incidents, my opinion - their opinion - is that whoever are aboard these craft are sending a signal to both Washington and Moscow, among others, that we are playing with fire,” he said. The retired airmen said they were ordered never to discuss the events involving UFO events but broke their silence at the conference. Former Air Force Captain Robert Salas said that in 1967 he was in an underground capsule at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana when a UFO shut down the nuclear missiles on his base. "They could have done a lot more damage, permanent damage, to our weapons systems, and they didn’t," Captain Salas said. "If they wanted to destroy them, with all the powers they seem to have, I think they could have done that job, so I personally don’t think this was a hostile intent." Mr Hastings said there were other UFOs spotted above military bases in recent decades with the latest sighting in 2007 at Malmstrom. In response to the sightings, the Air Force referred to a fact sheet on its website that read, “No UFO reported, investigated and evaluated by the Air Force was ever an indication of threat to our national security”.So the Air Force has evaluated that there are UFO's and decided that they are not a national threat (??) That's good news  And double good news with regard to their ability to destroy missiles. |
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Post by Zita on Sept 28, 2010 7:12:17 GMT
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Post by KNOs1s on Sept 28, 2010 8:07:59 GMT
I will always laugh at the absurd. I will always wonder what if. Man can fly. That was an absurb statement once. Those that wondered 'what if' and searched further.... Man lives on after the death. Absurd. What if? The flying thing was an absurdity only to those who did not understand physics science. From a physical point, levitation *is* possible. Through scientific means, it mechanical flight has been proven for centuries. That is not in question. What *is* in question is the claims that people can fly just by using their minds. Again, it may be possible, yet it is not proven. Man's ability to live on after death comes closer and closer as science and computers can quite possibly provide a preservation of the mind and the body in the near future. It does not affect the ridiculous and absurd claims made by charlatans and frauds. Claims without proof. I'm not certain how this isn't clear.  |
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Post by rembrandt on Sept 28, 2010 11:50:43 GMT
It is likely that the Solomon and Jesus stories are made up too.
Through science man has been able to accomplish many things, we can even fly by using the principles of matter found through physics. Still waiting to see flying people.
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Post by Zita on Sept 28, 2010 23:08:16 GMT
;D If we did, would we believe our eyes?
Flying would be fun wouldn't it... (makes mental note to lose (lotsa)weight and learn to meditate like St Joseph of Cupertino).
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Post by rembrandt on Sept 28, 2010 23:23:00 GMT
I couldn't really be controlled if I could just leap off and fly. Who says that St Joseph of Cupertino could fly?
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Post by KNOs1s on Sept 28, 2010 23:25:12 GMT
Perception is a tool given to error and mechanical malfunction, yet it is the bridge to understanding even what may be beyond its ken. Yes, if I saw a flying human I would believe my eyes, though I would seek out how it was done, and not give it the title of fact until it was proven and the possibility of trickery eliminated. |
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Post by rembrandt on Sept 29, 2010 2:33:49 GMT
Very given to error. Objective measures are the best that we can do
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Post by Zita on Sept 29, 2010 4:46:28 GMT
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Post by rembrandt on Sept 29, 2010 13:00:50 GMT
Do you find it odd that these kind of stories seem to always originate in a certain time in our history and there are no examples of it now?
I watched on television as a magician made the Statue of Liberty disappear. Of course that was a clever use of light and shadow. The Allies did something similar in WWII to conceal the location of an airbase from Axis bombers. It worked. Incidentally, in both cases the item of interest was still there. Kind of like a game of peek-a-boo.
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Post by KNOs1s on Sept 29, 2010 14:18:55 GMT
Come on, Rembrandt! You know David Copperfield has madgikqual powers! ;D
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Post by rembrandt on Sept 29, 2010 14:54:05 GMT
Didn't he marry that super model?
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Post by KNOs1s on Sept 29, 2010 15:09:12 GMT
Didn't he marry that super model? Yep, though I can't recall which one. I think Claudia Schiffer? That proves he's got madjkque!  |
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Post by Zita on Sept 30, 2010 2:03:56 GMT
> The Allies did something similar in WWII to conceal the location of an airbase from Axis bombers. And then we have the famous Philadelphia Experiment... where many witnessed some survivors actually disappearing before there eyes. In fact, the burden of proof is now far and away upon the doubters of time and dimensional travel to make their case that such are impossible. A number of the great minds in contemporary physics -- including but not limited to Nick Herbert, Kip Thorne, Frank Tipler, Fred Allen Wolf, Michio Kaku, Steven Hawking (a recent and enthusiastic convert) and Paul Halpern -- postulate that time travel can in fact be achieved. It can be said conclusively, proven beyond any doubt within the framework of contemporary science, that parallel dimensions exist -- probable realities to us, apparently infinite in number; our familiar 3-D time/space continuum is but one manifestation.
Fundamentally, it is our consciousness which in some way literally brings into being the dimension or reality we experience, manifesting it from what are to us realms of infinite potentials. This was demonstrated in a mathematical form known as Von Neumann’s Proof, developed by Hungarian-born physicist Janus (John) Eric Von Neumann and published in the 1930’s in his book, “The Mathematical Foundations of Quantum Physics,” known even today as “the bible” among quantum physicists (more about Von Neumann later). Other developments have demonstrated that time as it is commonly conceived of, a linear progression from past to present to future, does not ultimately exist.
Now might well think that those whose names appear in bold type, just don't know what they are talking about.. but.. Explore this site, and find out just how important the Masters jewel really is. (Special Relativity) www.philadelphia-experiment.com/Montauk_Project_by_John_Quinn_Part_I.htm |
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Post by rembrandt on Sept 30, 2010 2:15:05 GMT
Would being on a spacecraft that could reach or exceed the speed of light stop the cellular senescence that is encoded in our DNA?
Who witnessed the Philadelphia Experiment and could you provide their statements? What did they actually see and what was measured? A very expensive project was bound to be closely monitored.
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Post by Zita on Sept 30, 2010 2:41:33 GMT
There is enough literature out there to satisfy your belief either way. Some things I do know... magnetic fields create unusual effects. The excessive use of heavy industrial tools at the shipyard created enormous fields which produced physical affects on the men. Well documented. Now have a look at this.. io9.com/5355779/a-mouse-defies-gravity-using-nothing-but-magnetsDid you know that the set up of a lodge room can be used to demonstrate how magnetic fields work. The only key I will give you is that one side is light and the other dark and the middle a mix. |
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Post by rembrandt on Sept 30, 2010 3:24:07 GMT
Just ran through my university's database, which has access to thousands of peer reviewed journals, and there is nothing on this story at all. I wonder why. We do know that magnetic fields do cause usual effects under controlled conditions. Not "unusual" mind you. Still, nothing on levitating on mind power alone.
I have been to several lodge meetings. Nobody floated around. Were you suggesting that?
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Post by Zita on Oct 1, 2010 2:10:30 GMT
www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_coralcastle1.htmDon't laugh, just read. Most especially the part at the bottom.. You can download the whole book if you are scientists and want to put it to the test. This man DID build a castle using extremely heavy material, ALL BY HIMSELF. Eccentric he was, as was Einstein and Tesla. When you read the material you will see if you reduced the data to simplicity itself, the lodge room reflects 'the laws' of physics. How else can a scientist in one era talk to a scientist a thousand years down the track? Fritjof Capra, a theoretical physics researcher, states in The Tao of Physics"the rational part of research would be useless if it were not complemented by the intuition that gives scientists new insights and makes them creative". Capra was himself a mystic as well as a scientist... the above book, which I recommend you read, explains how he came to recognise that the religious mystics and the scientists were talking about the same things, just using different languages. Masonry can talk to scientist, mystic and man in the street. The patterns are the same but different for all, well demonstrated by the fractal geometry of the Mandelbrot Set.
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And double good news with regard to their ability to destroy missiles.
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