my story

[zhine]

hi all my name is zhine

I have been into esoteric subjects since i was about 13 or so. I started my search using mostly oriental energy techniques from taoism, tibetan buddhism, and tantric hinduism. I also did a lot of the stuff taught by samael aun weor. basically this means I played around with semen retention, sexual techniques, astral projection, lucid dreaming, opening energy channels in my body and this sort of thing.

While i have benefitted from some of these practices, I think others may not give you the results you are looking for at best and at worst may cause you harm. for example many of the semen retention techniques taught in taoism and tantrism are simple unsafe if used for long periods of time. Also if you are moving energy around your body and dont know what you are doing you can cause some serious damage or unbalances.

Now at this point in my life I am no longer seriously persuing these subjects. I simply do not have the time and resources. As a young man trying to build my life and with aging parents to help support I am focusing on building my career as of now. Also in my opinion you REALLY do need someone to teach you who has gone through whatever you are trying to acheive when it comes to energy techniques.

However in the mean time I am trying to learn to incorporate spiritual practices into my daily living while I am doing my daily activities. You see most of the practices i did before require large amounts of free time for one to sit in peace and quit alone. I no longer have the time to do them seriously. So basically I am just trying to be aware of my thoughts, emotions, and body during my daily activities.

but i would also like to work on increasing my willpower, concentration, and ability to attract the things i need to help me build a more spiritual life. I am currently trying to "ritualize" much of my daily activities to help in their efficiency, but i am new to this area.

Basically I am looking for a more magikal system i can incorporate into my daily living that will help me to increase my worldly and spiritual efficiency if that makes any sense. Also I am not looking to use the assistance of spirits of any kind as I no longer like to play with things that i do not know too much about. I have already had this experience with some energetic techniques

I hope this post made some sense, any questions please let me know, and comments are of corse much appreciated

[hahya]

Hello, it was wise to discontinue potentially dangerous practices attempted without an experienced mentor. Spirituality is not necessarily a system to be studied, but an awareness of our interconnectedness to that which is around us. It is a way of living.

[sid]

Apr 25, 2010 5:03:34 GMT zhine said:

hi all my name is zhine

I have been into esoteric subjects since i was about 13 or so. I started my search using mostly oriental energy techniques from taoism, tibetan buddhism, and tantric hinduism. I also did a lot of the stuff taught by samael aun weor. basically this means I played around with semen retention, sexual techniques, astral projection, lucid dreaming, opening energy channels in my body and this sort of thing.

While i have benefitted from some of these practices, I think others may not give you the results you are looking for at best and at worst may cause you harm. for example many of the semen retention techniques taught in taoism and tantrism are simple unsafe if used for long periods of time. Also if you are moving energy around your body and dont know what you are doing you can cause some serious damage or unbalances.

Now at this point in my life I am no longer seriously persuing these subjects. I simply do not have the time and resources. As a young man trying to build my life and with aging parents to help support I am focusing on building my career as of now. Also in my opinion you REALLY do need someone to teach you who has gone through whatever you are trying to acheive when it comes to energy techniques.

However in the mean time I am trying to learn to incorporate spiritual practices into my daily living while I am doing my daily activities. You see most of the practices i did before require large amounts of free time for one to sit in peace and quit alone. I no longer have the time to do them seriously. So basically I am just trying to be aware of my thoughts, emotions, and body during my daily activities.

but i would also like to work on increasing my willpower, concentration, and ability to attract the things i need to help me build a more spiritual life. I am currently trying to "ritualize" much of my daily activities to help in their efficiency, but i am new to this area.

Basically I am looking for a more magikal system i can incorporate into my daily living that will help me to increase my worldly and spiritual efficiency if that makes any sense. Also I am not looking to use the assistance of spirits of any kind as I no longer like to play with things that i do not know too much about. I have already had this experience with some energetic techniques

I hope this post made some sense, any questions please let me know, and comments are of corse much appreciated

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[letterorhalveit3]

As Kanati says, it was wise to discontinue some of the more dangerous practices in which you were engaged. There are Buddhist meditation practices which can be severely emotionally dangerous with a guide or mentor of some sort, ie death meditation or charnal ground meditation.

One of the interesting things about Freemasonry is, while it does not teach some of the practices you mentioned, it comes "equipped" chock-a-block with mentors, literature both eso- and exoteric. Its an established system of spiritual development and discovery which has been around for centuries, much like the Rosicrucian system and in fact possesses some aspects of the Rosicrucian "thought" system.

I would encourage your own investigation into both systems (CRC and Freemasonry).

[zhine]

One of the interesting things about Freemasonry is, while it does not teach some of the practices you mentioned, it comes "equipped" chock-a-block with mentors, literature both eso- and exoteric. Its an established system of spiritual development and discovery which has been around for centuries, much like the Rosicrucian system and in fact possesses some aspects of the Rosicrucian "thought" system.

yes masonry seems like a very practical system from what i understand at least on an exoteric level. As far as their esoteric practices it is harder for me to say as I am not one myself. However I suppose people like manly p. hall and albert pike have hinted at them.

I have considered joining masonry/rosicrucianism numerous times, but with many quasi masonic groups like the oto, memphis-misraim, etc it becomes a hard decision for me

at this point i am looking for something that is down to earth and practical, and does not require too much time for the time being.

[KNOs1s]

I would not suggest joining any group if you do not want much required of you. The outside looking in may offer a view prone to misjudgment.

[zhine]

I would not suggest joining any group if you do not want much required of you. The outside looking in may offer a view prone to misjudgment.

what i mean is that im kind of looking for a system or school that i can get into to learn more about myself and other systems i do not know much about so that i can better deceide exactly what kind of path is best for me later on when i will have more time available. eventually i do plan to invest a large amount of my time to whatever system i choose. right now i am basically shopping and studying and doing a little experimentation with what i find. i think you are right. I am also by nature a very indeceisive person so this does not help me much either.

maybe it is better for me to just read and research for the time being and make a decision when i am truely ready. My comment about masonry was meant to emphasize that fact that it a) seems to work a lot with really approachable down to earth techniques, b) seems to make the study of many many other traditions a part of its own tradition and c) seems to only require what one is able to give in terms of time

I guess I was kind of trying to make the point that maybe if i joined masonry in the mean time it could help me to discover more about myself and other systems of study without me having to spend too much time devoted to it right now if that makes any sense.

[lauderdale]

"maybe it is better for me to just read and research for the time being and make a decision when I am truly ready."

Yes indeed Zhine. I feel you have found your answer for yourself. Read. mark, inwardly digest. There is a treasury of books and other information not only about Freemasonry, in its many different forms as there is no "One size fits all" or "Authorised Version" of Freemasonry. Explore them all, read what you can and as you say make a decision when you are truly ready.

You are fortunate being young in that you have more time than many of us to make your researches and you also have the advantage of the Internet with information only a mouse click away. In my time I had to seek out books, some of which were sensationalist rubbish and a waste of time and money.

Good luck to you in your quest.

[KNOs1s]

Masonry offers nothing that you do not already have inside you. It offers a way to access it, though it still of your own free will to decide the path to access it. It offers far more than is perceived from an outside view. Someone may spend decades as a member and still not understand. Masonry functions on a large variety of levels, both the esoteric and the mundane ('on Earth as it is in heaven...as above, so below'), and the only thing it requires of you is what you require of yourself. The investment of time is a personal decision. I think the decision to wait until you feel ready and prepared of your own free will if you wish. I joined only after studying and reading much before I decided to join. It is not a decision to be taken lightly, and research any group and the leaders of those you may ultimately decide to join.

It is good you have access to the internet, as you can more fully research an organization you wish to join. Run names of individuals on the internet to make certain they are trustworthy and honest. People would do as much when buying a car, why not something that is subjectively more important? I researched before joining (well over a decade, as my interests started at a young age as well) and am extremely happy with what was received. Having trust in the universe, I am certain that all honest searches find. 'Seek and ye shall find.' Travel well!

[letterorhalveit3]

Zhine-

Have you considered the Theosophical Society. It seems to me that their approach might have a good deal of what you are looking for and that you also have some background in.

[KNOs1s]

That's a good suggestion. I didn't think of it, but agree or disagree with them, most theosophists offer much for further contemplation.

[sammy]

I think you are on your right path but your body is telling your mind to come down for a little while (prementioned balance). It sounds like you have done wonders for your spirit and found much along the way. A practice i like to do (i dont have alot of freetime sometimes either) is by portraying what i find spiritualy into a physical reality through representation, wich serves a two part result. The first part is to know that i am actively helping people understand themselves and others when i have the chance, and the second is i can test my spiritual aspect with my physical aspect. By the second i mean wich idea might lean more toward the whole then the other, or the more likely possibility while maintaining peace as a whole. Peace could be worldy or of mind but transfers in this formula just the same. I would suggest you find something you can do artisticaly that can express what you have found on the inside. There is alot to be said for focusing thought i.e. meditation, practices, etc.. but it doesnt seem like you have problems finding peace in that frame of mind. Don't sue me if im wrong but i think you could do good with a challenge in your aquired skills by adding a new one. Good luck and safe journies

[vajranagini]

You may wish to check out the study of the Hermetic Qabalah, using the meditative method. I recommend Dion Fortune's "The Mystical Qabalah". One draws up one's own copy of the Tree of Life, and schedules a brief meditation each day, along with memorizing all the correspondences associated with each Sephirah. You will gradually come to realize why the TOL is called "The Talking Tree". A thourough knowledge of the Qabalah enables you to get a grasp of Western (and Eastern!) Esoteric Philosophy.