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Post by blackdragon on Jun 3, 2010 9:32:56 GMT
The bible appears to be an esoteric book of code, filled with allegories and symbolism. It appears that that the key to decoding the bible lies in one's ability to extract the main theme behind the allegories
For example, when I relate the Great Flood in the book of Genesis, to the legends of Atlantis & Lemuria, I see a strong parallel, between the two stories.
According to legend, the Atlanteans & Lemurians practised black magic, twisted occult principles and unleashed a great evil upon their world, leading to cataclysmic earthquakes/great flood unleashed as an effect of their misdeeds
According to the bible, God instructed the Watchers(Angels) to watch over man, shortly after creating him. The angels derailed, interbred with women, who gave birth to giants. The angels also taught man to negatively apply esoteric knowledge, resulting in abomination on the face of the earth, thus requiring God to destroy the earth via a Great flood
I have a hunch that the great flood in Genesis, may be an allegory for the legend of Atlantis & Lemuria. I would deeply appreciate any thoughts on this?
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Post by maximus on Jun 3, 2010 13:46:43 GMT
Read Uriel's Machine for a much more plausible explanation.
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Post by whistler on Jun 9, 2010 1:37:14 GMT
It is articles like this "When the bones of two early humans were found in 1967 near Kibish, Ethiopia, they were thought to be 130,000 years old. A few years ago, researchers found 154,000- to 160,000-year-old human bones at Herto, Ethiopia. Now, a new study of the 1967 fossil site indicates the earliest known members of our species, Homo sapiens, roamed Africa about 195,000 years ago.
"It pushes back the beginning of anatomically modern humans," says geologist Frank Brown, a co-author of the study and dean of the University of Utah's College of Mines and Earth Sciences. "
That makes me wonder what religious beliefs Those men and Women who lived 130,000 years ago had . Did their God send them a Saviour - or just let them muddle along. More likely their God was Whimsical Nature - and as they grunted about it they shared the "Lore" of their times
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Post by KNOs1s on Jun 16, 2010 15:02:25 GMT
The Cro-Magnon peoples had some indication of a belief in an afterlife. Of course, people weren't any better before they had developed language or religion. Evidence shows Homo Sapiens killed Cro-Magnons. We've been killing for quite a while now, and we ain't done yet.
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Post by rembrandt on Jun 16, 2010 15:19:47 GMT
Cro-magnon man was Homo sapiens. So yup, we have been killing each other for a long time.
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Post by KNOs1s on Jun 16, 2010 15:32:17 GMT
Cro-magnon man was Homo sapiens. So yup, we have been killing each other for a long time. I don't think the scientists are in agreement on that, but they are definitely close enough to say they were both part of mankind. ;,) Without clear evidence, it is difficult to suppose that there was a better type of primitive religion. Not bad to speculate on it, however. It seems certain that some sort of animism existed early on, though it is hard to tell how peaceful or brutal the peoples may have been as a result of primitive religion.
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Post by Zita on Jun 20, 2010 23:52:58 GMT
Blackdragon - here are a few little titbits which may encourage you in your search for more meaning in the Bible. If you are a Royal Arch mason you will find this piece of particular interest as well. Twelve Tribes of Israel may take on new meaning. Enjoy. Capricorn was the opposite of Cancer and embodied the ideal that as the goat climbs the mountains, so man must leave the basins of Atlantis and come up from the mist. ….
Our condition during the middle third of the Atlantean Epoch is illustrated in the Sun's passage through the sign Gemini, the twins, which aptly represent infant humanity. During this age the division of soul from soul by the veil of flesh, ….
The Bull was very properly worshiped by them, being an emblem of strength necessary to conquer the material world. ….
Atlantis was the home of the Bull, Taurus, and when the Sun, by precession, was leaving that sign the last time, the Religion of the Lamb Aries was definitely ushered in. Thenceforth, the worship of the Bull was abrogated and when any of the pioneer race, brought out from the ancient Atlantean dispensation by the blood of the Lamb, Aries, backslid and worshiped the Taurean "Calf," they acted contrary to the law of progress and were therefore "Idolaters," and an abomination to the divine hierarchs whose task it was to guide them during the ages preceding the advent of Christ. ….
Every Freemason knows that the brethren of that Order are called "Sons of the Widow." And it is stated in the Bible that Hiram Abiff, the Master Builder of Solomon's Temple, was the Son of a Widow, a cunning craftsman. We cannot in the present article repeat the Masonic Legend which tells the reason why. This we have given the book on "Freemasonry and Catholicism" and also in our books on the Rosicrucian Philosophy. But suffice it to say that in the Bible story to which reference has been made, we have one of the Naim, a Widow's Son or initiate of the old Serpent School, for the priests of Egypt were "phree messen," children of light. Each had within, the ancient Serpent Wisdom. But a new religion was being inaugurated, and it was necessary to raise the ancient Initiates to the Mysteries of the Coming Age. Therefore the Christ, the Lion of Judah, Lord of the New Kingdom, went to the Widow's Son of Nain and raised him up by the strong grip of the Lion's paw. And we may here emphasize that the first Initiate under the new system was Hiram Abiff, the highest Initiate of the old system, who by this new initiation given him by the Christ, became a Christian, pledged to bear the Rose and the Cross, which were the symbols of the New Mystery Teachings of the Western World and he was then given the symbolical name, Christian Rosenkreuz
www.rosicrucian.com/mos/moseng01.htm
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Post by KNOs1s on Jun 21, 2010 15:08:44 GMT
Atlantis' existence is still in question, though I personally believe it did exist. In examining these types of writings, it is not useless to attempt to verify their veracity. A lot of it comes down to faith rather than reason, though I think the two can be synthesized to positive effect.
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Post by rembrandt on Jun 21, 2010 22:52:51 GMT
I don't that scientists are still too far out on the question. Regardless, we have been long time killers and worshippers. Some times we do those things at the same time.
An early religion. Well, we do have all of those cool little statues of a faceless pregnant woman. Venus by any other name.
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Post by KNOs1s on Jun 22, 2010 9:06:21 GMT
Yeah, the Venus of Willendorf is okay. I'm a Hottentot Venus man myself. ;D I wonder if most of what could be considered 'prehistoric religion' isn't irreparably lost. I've read a bit on the subject, and what is there is fairly sparse. I wonder if they had pancake breakfasts?
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Post by rembrandt on Jun 22, 2010 11:39:09 GMT
. . . . and funny hats.
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Post by KNOs1s on Jun 22, 2010 18:52:04 GMT
I wear a propeller beanie:
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Post by blackdragon on Jun 25, 2010 22:19:41 GMT
Thanks a million Zita. I read your post several times....and during a session of meditation at my bar/snooker table...it hit me.Everything I had researched about christianity & christ..your article....12 tribes of israel....12 knights of king arthur...solar conciousness....sun/solar symbols pieced together and wham!!! All my senses went bunkers for a few seconds(my pulses raced)
And i realised that the gospels of the bible are really just coded messges about the sun, the zodiac and the astrological ages...and i realised that the christ conciousness is really solar conciousness..and many other things....and how mankind has made a big mess of religion..a big bloody mess
The various religions are really about raising our consciousness..but exoteric interpretation (rather than careful decoding of esoteric content/allegories) has resulted in unecessary bloodshed and violence in the name of God
What a sad sad situation
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Post by sammy on Jun 28, 2010 22:21:43 GMT
I feel your pain Blackdragon. I do however love hearing the stories of awakening, and what it was that triggered the event. Isn't it funny how the little things all add up to one big picture in the end? If funny can be used in that sense... in the face of what that big picture is showing. For me it was something i heard on TV, not even sure what it was now but i do remember it was a show about physics. obviousely my path took me down a very different portrait of connections but this exactly offers a example of how we are all different for the better. My thoughts are with you on your journey friend drive safe and wear your seatbelt
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Post by ruffashlar on Sept 22, 2010 13:06:53 GMT
I wonder if most of what could be considered 'prehistoric religion' isn't irreparably lost.
Certain people get very excited periodically when they realise that most of the ancient religious and mythological systems of the world share many features in common. Namely, families of gods arguing, bickering, backstabbing and generally annoying the hell out of each other; as well as a lot of deep-seated obsessing about sex, blood, death and trying to get food in your belly. All religions must once have been one! they cry.
Whereas, of course, all religions are (or were) basically the same because all people are basically the same, with the same concerns, fears, hopes - and, yes, even dreams. The prehistoric and the present are but the blink of an eye in evolutionary terms; and we, along with our religions, are in principle and fact, intact.
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Post by nventr on Jan 26, 2012 16:49:22 GMT
Thanks a million Zita. I read your post several times....and during a session of meditation at my bar/snooker table...it hit me.Everything I had researched about christianity & christ..your article....12 tribes of israel....12 knights of king arthur...solar conciousness....sun/solar symbols pieced together and wham!!! All my senses went bunkers for a few seconds(my pulses raced) And i realised that the gospels of the bible are really just coded messges about the sun, the zodiac and the astrological ages...and i realised that the christ conciousness is really solar conciousness..and many other things....and how mankind has made a big mess of religion..a big bloody mess The various religions are really about raising our consciousness..but exoteric interpretation (rather than careful decoding of esoteric content/allegories) has resulted in unecessary bloodshed and violence in the name of God What a sad sad situation Yes, it is very sad! The Story of Atlantis and The Story of Noah are two sides of the same coin. For one, the flood of Grace/Light is destructive, for the other, the flood of Grace/Light is uplifting. For some this story is a warning, for others it is a blessing. The Bible stories and all the myths, parables, and spiritual teaching stories, and symbols of all legitimate organizations are about the workings of spirit. Know Thy SELF. Then you will know which side of the coin you are and what meaning you are to get from this story. Attachments:
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Post by nventr on Jan 26, 2012 17:01:03 GMT
This is a very simple drawing from the first lines in Genesis, but many myths and beliefs have arisen over the centuries because of this glyph. If you fill in the “firmament” you get the eternal shape of a boat’s hull. That is why you see a lot of “sun boat” mythology. It is the origin of the fish glyph. The simple symbol in the previous post is the fish tower - the name Jesus gave to Mary of Magdala. It is the origin of The Egyptian idea that the goddess Nut arched over as the sky. It is also the origin of the medieval idea that the earth was covered by a dome. These ideas are imbedded in our makeup and are seen and re-seen by mystics in every age of man. If you would like to see the whole system, you are welcome to visit the blueprint page of my website: www.JesusWedding.comAttachments:
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Post by boreades on Mar 7, 2012 22:11:05 GMT
Traditional archeologists (of course) don't believe anything unless they found it in the ground or someone else had already written it down. But there are more and more scientific facts emerging that support the great oral traditions (like masonic ritual) of Great Floods in "prehistoric" times. Authors like Graham Hancock are doing great work in publicising the rapidly expanding research on the early civilisations that were inundated by rising sea water after the end of the last ice-age. In doing so, they are pushing back the known beginnings of civilisations by thousands of years. See here for example: www.grahamhancock.com/archive/underworld/
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Post by nventr on Mar 14, 2012 15:34:38 GMT
Mystics use human experience to describe the inner world. While the exoteric meaning does point to historic events.
The esoteric or mystical meaning is always describing the inner sanctum or soul and how it operates.
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Post by rembrandt on Mar 29, 2012 12:51:28 GMT
80% of statistics are garbage.
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