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Post by MindSearch on May 2, 2014 20:57:29 GMT
I have a web to which I would like that you give a look, in concrete to the science section of www.yave-yavo.org to see what you think. My web is based on the idea that the consciusness is the electromagnetism (with all the philosophycal consecuences) but to demonstrate it goes embracing from numerous perspectives (and always with scientific studies) as how it can be at all the levels,from cellular to organism and even planetarium. Therefore embracing topics as the biophotonics, the interaction of the electromagnetic fields whith the material quantum fields mediated by biomolecules or water, the effects of electromagnetic contamination, different mensurations and studies of distant interactions, the conscience of GAIA visibe through geomagnetic pulsations and Schumann resonances, and even extrapolating last this, equivalent signs in the planets of our solar system. Well, to see if you like and/or it is for your profit. I recently released the web.. ----- Edited 18/08/2015 -> website: emmind.science
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Post by peter2 on May 3, 2014 3:03:02 GMT
I have no doubt that intelligence underlies all manifestation and must be linked to that manifestation including through electromagnetism, but are there deeper processes?
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Post by MindSearch on May 3, 2014 5:07:21 GMT
Yes, there are underlying process, in the no manifested quantum field all is the same thing, but in the manifestation diferences of the things depends on their emviromental electromagnetics (or magnetic pulsations, acelerations, etc) to make the things to respond different or as is they are the same thing (you can see Michael Persinger experiments). Light is the active conscioussnes, materials are the memory, quantum backound is the subconsious (not consciousness because is nothing about to be conscient). But in general, in the website pointed out are more concrete things, is only that I like to mountain puzzles (but I am not the first that have similar teories).
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Post by sammy on May 4, 2014 15:18:25 GMT
Really a nice setup on the site. Easy to navigate, and WOW you have done a lot of work on this HAHA! Awesome work! Thanks for linking it.
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Post by boreades on Mar 3, 2015 23:39:14 GMT
Hello yaveyavo Thanks for the links to your website. Have you looked at Morphogenic Fields and Morphic Resonance by Rupert Sheldrake? It could make a useful addition to your material. Also the Laws of Form (Calculus of Distinctions) by George Spenser Brown, which appears to be a mathematical work, but is actually a very fundamental explanation of how humans perceive the world. See www.lawsofform.org/
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Post by peter2 on Apr 23, 2015 8:16:46 GMT
...Light is the active consciousness... There is some thought that consciousness refers to a fairly dense level: the friction between spirit and matter. And that the term "awareness" ought to be used for perceptions that extend beyond the consciousness. For example in a dream one might be aware of the identity of another player without any conscious thought process.
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Post by MindSearch on Aug 16, 2015 8:06:43 GMT
Hello yaveyavo Thanks for the links to your website. Have you looked at Morphogenic Fields and Morphic Resonance by Rupert Sheldrake? It could make a useful addition to your material. Also the Laws of Form (Calculus of Distinctions) by George Spenser Brown, which appears to be a mathematical work, but is actually a very fundamental explanation of how humans perceive the world. See www.lawsofform.org/I have read some things about Seldrake but always gave me the feeling that did not quite specify the possible mechanisms, but I think I agree with his vision of morphic fields. On the other hand, I think it has started ranving a little (for me) with his approach to Christian doctrines.
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Post by MindSearch on Aug 16, 2015 8:09:25 GMT
...Light is the active consciousness... There is some thought that consciousness refers to a fairly dense level: the friction between spirit and matter. And that the term "awareness" ought to be used for perceptions that extend beyond the consciousness. For example in a dream one might be aware of the identity of another player without any conscious thought process. My feeling is that thinking on spirit is to think that something that support your life is going to survive your material death and go to "the heaven" or "another life". I am very spiritual, but is not necessary for me believe in this, moreover, I think that this kind of philosophy had done much damage to humanity because its power the egolatry (I the eternal, I will see my sons worship my tomb..), I think basically that death don't exits.. always photons (the proto-conscious) are here and there, only it changes forms, the ambit, brokening the "I" temporal illusion. Even further, In my live I see too that justice is always playing (but the people don´t recognize their own errors, IE. animals mistreat, mental fascism, etc..), so I don't need no justice day on heavens no karma accumulation. I follow the heart.. The consciousness and its mysteries is sufficiently spiritual for me, and taken into account this is also sufficient to explain some psychic phenomena like sanation or telepathy. There is also no much difference between terms like live, conscious and awareness; only are different grades of complexity. Is like saying that if a ping-pong ball go across the table and pass it is a one conscious impulse, but if the ping-pong ball go one side to other again and again it creates a feeling of me in the area over the table.
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Post by MindSearch on Aug 16, 2015 8:22:07 GMT
Electromagnetic Mind - an explanation for consciousness (I was yaveyavo) THE PROBLEM For a while I kept feeling that something was missing in the more traditional explanation of how consciousness arises; ultimately as a result of the activity and interactions of certain chemical compounds, neuropeptides or, at best, the concerted action of neurons (??). It is not only that does not answer to the Chalmers "hard problem" (how can arise experience from something that does not) But rather it has some other fundamental problems: the consciousness of unicellular organism as the slime mold protists "a unicellular organism without external brain using spatial memory to navigate a complex environment", the body's own cells that make complex calculations with received imputs to find out where to go, Also in connection with this the numerous reactions and internal movements within the cells requiring tight synchronization eg; when microtubules hook each of the chromosomes and pull them toward each side of the cell during division, it was also striking me the willful and often surprising activity of viruses. Is to say that illogically for me, macroscopic animals consciousness and the willful concerted activity of microscopic elements are separated. Quasi like the damn church duality that promotes a soul to explain consciousness, and to make matters even dogs haven´t it, damn anthropocentrism !, that is so damaging .. INTERMEDIATE / Philosophy The philosophy (because all science involves some kind of philosophy) that is coupled to better suit my these and other major issues is panpsychism, at least one variety of this (I do not know what because I mess with definitions) that ultimately what it says is that there is at least a proto-conscious principle in a general component of the universe such, as in the case I present here, that proto-conscious principle would be the photon, and more or less ordered assemblies of they generate more or less self-conscious and vital systems. [As personal intuition: the photon joint very well with consciousness because introspectively I have realized that consciousness is nothing more than an accumulation of impulses on track, and a photon is an impulse. And it solves a number of other physical problems like the issue of observer required for the quantum wave function collapse; there would be no problems because the void actually being filled with virtual photons appearing and disappearing, as almost everything is perceived (not saying thought) at all times] But let us return to science, to see if it supports a bit .. THE SOLUTION The theory itself, that somehow electromagnetism is the basis of consciousness, is a theory that has been under development for years (although it is in recent years with the technological advances that this may be investigated more seriously) So there already are several theories that deal specifically with this principle for example: The CEMI Field Theory: Closing the loopThe origins of the brain's endogenous electromagnetic field and its relationship to provision of consciousnessSuperradiant coherent photons and hypercomputation in brain microtubules considered as metamaterialsetc .., as I said, it is not a new idea ... The Electromagnetic Nature of Life - The Contribution of W. Sedlak to the Understanding of the Essence of Life... but in recent years much progress is being made and there are at least one team developing a practical way, a machine with intelligence based on electromagnetic fields: Design and Construction of a Brain-Like Computer: A New Class of Frequency-Fractal Computing Using Wireless Communication in a Supramolecular Organic, Inorganic SystemAll this is supported from other branches of biology that may not directly address the consciousness but may be related to this if you have in mind what has been said so far: -all related to morphogenesis: Electromagnetic resonance and morphogenesisMembrane Patterns Carry Ontogenetic Information That Is Specified Independently of DNACracking the bioelectric code: Probing endogenous ionic controls of pattern formationElectromagnetic Fields as Structure-Function Zeitgebers in Biological Systems: Environmental Orchestrations of Morphogenesis and Consciousness-the use of electromagnetic fields for recognition between biomolecules: On the role of electrodynamic interactions in long-distance biomolecular recognitionIs it possible to detect long- range interactions among biomolecules through noise and diffusion?
-and related to this the resonant recognition model: Is it possible to predict electromagnetic resonances in proteins, DNA and RNA?Novel Cosic resonance (standing wave) solutions for components of the JAK–STAT cellular signaling pathway: A convergence of spectral density profiles-electrical properties of DNA: Electric DNA and Mind Searching for Electrical Properties, Phenomena and Mechanisms in the Construction and Function of ChromosomesAs pointed out at the beginning, all this would help explain a number of surprising issues, such as: How Do Cells Know What Size They Should Be
Intelligent Cells Know Their PlaceVirus Tricks Manipulate the Cytoskeletonetc, etc. It is also mentionable the special characteristics of water in biological systems (in any system in which there are many walls between water molecules in fact) and its behavior when affected by electromagnetic fields. Also there are other lines of research that may be associated in some way with all of the above and are all studies on electromagnetic fields applied to biological systems on medical or experimental way and their non-thermal effects. And also it has to be point the unwanted effects of radiations emitted by technological and industrial era. I am developing a website ( emmind.science) where I am collecting this information (well, and also other papers that dare to go a little further than the reported so far but well, is now beyond the scope of this post.)
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Post by peter2 on Aug 16, 2015 9:00:51 GMT
I think you are correct in saying that consciousness is supported by some non-physical-thing that transcends matter.
But I am not sure if that non-physical thing is electromagnetic. If you read the writings of Tesla you will find where he detects the aether. The impact reached him through both copper sheets and brick walls.
The aether itself is still rather dense but is intimately connected to the subtle level on which consciousness is transmitted.
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Post by MindSearch on Aug 17, 2015 6:58:03 GMT
I think you are correct in saying that consciousness is supported by some non-physical-thing that transcends matter. But I am not sure if that non-physical thing is electromagnetic. If you read the writings of Tesla you will find where he detects the aether. The impact reached him through both copper sheets and brick walls. The aether itself is still rather dense but is intimately connected to the subtle level on which consciousness is transmitted. I think that get into deep theories of physics is a dark (for me) and bumpy road, which is not entirely necessary to walk, not beyond what we already know, to explain consciousness. Apart from all the sections of biophysics in which the idea that the electromagnetic field is the vital principle is underpinned, also we have that the photon is a rather elementary particles, which appears and disappears in the vacuum, and that for itself there are not distances (because it goes to its speed, the speed of light) perceiving everything as a unit (is quite mystical). I said that the photon is quite elementary because now is the so-called Higgs field from which seems emerges everything, but how far go looking for the minuscule?, tearing it to pieces everything?, and that has some meaning that we can equate with consciousness, or at least the potential for it? I know you spoke of the ether of Tesla, but is a concept that I have not stopped to analyze too much because it is an issue that is not addressed in peer-review scientific journals, nor do I see discussions about it today .. if I'm wrong Correct me and if you link two or three papers of this decade I promise to read them. Maybe there is some way to associate the ether of Tesla with something physics is currently working (the Higgs field, the quantum field theory), but maybe it's a bit silly what I say, it seems the ether of Tesla emerged at a time where they was discussing whether all have the nature of particle or field. For you to see how far we can get working with specific electromagnetic fields here I present some experiments of Persinger group that are pretty hallucinating (of which it follows that when two objects are subjected to similar fields they entangle) Experimental Demonstration of Potential Entanglement of Brain Activity over 300 Km for Pairs of Subjects Sharing the Same Circular Rotating, Angular Accelerating Magnetic Fields: Verification by s_LORETA, QEEG MeasurementsExcessive correlated shifts in pH within distal solutions sharing phase-uncoupled angular accelerating magnetic fields: Macro-entanglement and information transferExperimentally-Induced Inhibition of Growth in Melanoma Cell Cultures Separated by ~2 Kilometers When Both Share Excess Correlation Magnetic Fields: Macroscopic Evidence of Free-Space Quantum Teleportation?I think it's more imporant try to understand what we already have in hand, than to go to the inhospitable profound physical theories. Greetings peter2
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Post by peter2 on Aug 22, 2015 7:27:53 GMT
I know you spoke of the ether of Tesla, but is a concept that I have not stopped to analyze too much because it is an issue that is not addressed in peer-review scientific journals, nor do I see discussions about it today .. if I'm wrong Correct me and if you link two or three papers of this decade I promise to read them. The Aether theory was discredited using the faulty Michelson-Morley experiments that assumed a non-entrained aether (as I recall). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson%E2%80%93Morley_experimentThese days the aether is referred to as quantum foam. That saves admitting being wrong for 100 years. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_foamA similar problem exists with Relativity. It turns out that using radar to measure the location of Venus requires Newtonian calculations as Relativistic calculations are wrong by some 500 km.
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