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Post by parisfred on Jun 19, 2007 13:45:15 GMT
I understand that political corectness under quotes means liberal point of view ? ;D ;D ;D too easy... and this kind of political trick is call an argument of authority as explain here : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_authoritySo instead I am waiting to a real argument against the sentence : "I feel as masons we should always be looking out for those who are oppressed, in this I believe the UN and Amnesty play a huge part in the world."
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Post by imakegarb on Jun 19, 2007 16:22:24 GMT
I understand that political corectness under quotes means liberal point of view ? ;D ;D ;D Very astute observation, Bro. Fred. I've found that some folks use this phrase to dismiss the points of others not because those points aren't valid but because these folks don't want those points to be valid but can't think of any good counter points. Hmmmmmm. Bro. Fred, I took part in rather a large peace rally in Portland, OR., a couple of months back. It was my first any-such-thing (in that particular circle of my friends, I'm referred to as my boyfriend's "straight girlfriend"). I have/had deep personal reasons for doing so and I act/acted on those feelings. I'm quite likely to do it again. However, I was not there on behalf of my lodge and it would not have occurred to me to mention my lodge affiliation. I also would not be pleased if my lodge or Jurisdiction mandated my participation/nonparticipation. While I agree that Freemasons should always be aware of the injustice and oppression of the world and, as individuals, act upon it, I do not think that Freemasons should become a unified, political action body. Also, the ritual (as I've seen it so far) would seem to support this position. I don't know that I'm arguing "against" that sentence so much as trying to put it into perspective. And context.
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Post by keith on Jun 19, 2007 21:43:13 GMT
Everyone has political and religious opinions and is entitled to do whatever they think appropriate in support of those opinions - join (or leave) political parties, demonstrate or not as the mood takes you. Attend church (or not)
The only restriction on a member of the Craft is that such matters not be debated in a Masonic setting. The reason for this is that as everybody has strong and differing opinions in such matters, they are most likely to cause dissension and disagreement among us
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Post by giovanni on Jun 19, 2007 21:46:45 GMT
Everyone has political and religious opinions and is entitled to do whatever they think appropriate in support of those opinions - join (or leave) political parties, demonstrate or not as the mood takes you. Attend church (or not) The only restriction on a member of the Craft is that such matters not be debated in a Masonic setting. The reason for this is that as everybody has strong and differing opinions in such matters, they are most likely to cause dissension and disagreement among us and speak for himself, not for the Craft
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Post by parisfred on Jun 21, 2007 9:22:11 GMT
[quote author=giovanni board=General thread=1180458564 and speak for himself, not for the Craft[/quote] Yes of course, and it depends of which kind of masonic system we belongs.
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