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Post by hollandr on Oct 25, 2006 10:02:59 GMT
I fail to understand in what sense our planet may be considered as 'non-sacred'. Well, perhaps you might watch the TV news for some evidence Cheers Russell
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Post by maat on Nov 2, 2006 3:43:58 GMT
Talking about sacred places - lets get back to my old home town Broken Hill ;D. If you will remember Russell has been there and noted that there is a very unusual 'energy' throughout the town...(see prior post). Had an email sent to day about the Crystal Canyon.... amazing!! Don't forget the myths/legends etc on the power of crystals. www.canyonsworldwide.org/crystals/But the stand out for me when they were describing the canyon was that the area is famed for its silver, lead and zinc mining... which is exactly what is mined at Broken Hill. Oooh aah - makes one wonder doesn't it. (mutter mutter .. do they make crystal detectors..?) Come to think of it, if Russell can see a red serpent looking at me from Qld (I have a painting of the Rainbow Serpent on the Wall which has a red head) I reckon he should be able to remote view a cave of giant crystals if it exists in that area. Russell ... if you get time. I'll get out the pendulum Maat
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Post by maat on Nov 22, 2006 23:14:08 GMT
On another thread there is a discussion going on about the four elements.. a follow on from a great post from Giovanni of the Chamber of Reflection, wherein he says.. "Alchemy is also a transmutative science. Transmutation is the change or conversion of both the agent-subject and the matter-object into something new and different." Last night I was watching a show on bioluminescence... www.lifesci.ucsb.edu/~biolum/this got me to thinking about the stories in the bible of Jesus and his Transfiguration, Moses when he came down from the Mount etc... Are the oceans of our world giving us a starting point to understanding the miracle of our Earthly bodies? When we reach perfection is it possible we just might disappear? www.shroudofturin4journalists.com/described.htmif we only almost reach perfection is the result incorruptibily? www.livingmiracles.net/Incorrupt.htmlVery interesting.... Maat
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Post by maat on Dec 1, 2006 3:38:23 GMT
THE LOST WORDS HAVE BEEN FOUND In several places on previous pages, and with different applications, I have posted on the importance of Sound. Here is another application which will be of much interest to new parents. A really interesting story ... "When Priscilla (Dunstan) was a toddler, her parents discovered she had a photographic memory for sound. At age 4, she could hear a Mozart concert on the piano and play it back note for note. Priscilla says her gift has helped her hear a special "second language" beyond English, allowing her to detect moods and even diagnose illnesses! "Other people might hear a note but I sort of get the whole symphony," Priscilla says. "So when someone's speaking, I get all this information that other people might not pick up." Priscilla's unique ability enabled her to understand what new born babies were communicating. She noticed that babies the world over, despite cultural and language differences all produced the same sound for the same reason. She says these sounds seem to be the same because of the uneasiness of the part of the body which necessitates their utterance, which if you work backwards may give us some indication as to why mantras, and toning in ceremonials can be of such importance. We start outwardly and try to affect a part of our innards. www2.oprah.com/tows/slide/200611/20061113/slide_20061113_350_102.jhtmlYep - she's an Aussie ;D Maat
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Post by ingo on Dec 1, 2006 8:19:57 GMT
The basis of all: communication.
See the medieval test by an emperor: He wanted to find out of the natural first language of mankind either was greek, latin or hebrew. So he took 5 or ten babies, handed them over to nurses and doctors to watch and control. The babies were fed and kept clean but communication was not allowed. The babies were all separated from each other and had only contact to the nurses and doctors which were not allowed to speak, babbale or even make faces. The babies died all, they rejected food then.
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Post by giovanni on Dec 1, 2006 11:07:52 GMT
the emperor's name was Friedrich II of Swabia, who carried this test in Palermo.
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Post by ingo on Dec 1, 2006 15:54:16 GMT
Thats right, Gio. Friedrich II, emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, Duke of Suebia, King of Sicilia
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Post by transcendental on Dec 1, 2006 23:21:03 GMT
Was this in a thread or PM? Pretty amazing.
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Post by maat on Dec 4, 2006 0:27:49 GMT
You just made me look at him again trancendental ... he's still there. You will find the conversation in the General Section, P24 today... Thread called "Have you ever felt the Light?" I must admit, at the time, Russell's observation quite spooked me. Makes you wonder who else is watching you... Cheers Maat
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Post by hollandr on Dec 4, 2006 2:51:54 GMT
>Makes you wonder who else is watching you.
Maat
The human race's (artificial) blindness to the inner worlds leads it to think that it is unobserved.
But that is like being fooled by one-way mirrors
Cheers
Russell
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Post by maat on Dec 4, 2006 22:40:54 GMT
The human race's (artificial) blindness to the inner worlds leads it to think that it is unobserved. ...even though there are clear indications in both ritual and lodge settings that this is not the case. How much different would we act if we knew we were being observed? Scary thought eh! ;D Maat
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Post by maat on Jan 25, 2007 0:43:20 GMT
Clearing out my "favourites file" I came across this again. Jain's Vedic Maths. If I have posted on this before, forgive me, this thread is too long to go thru to check. Anyway it sparked my interest again... VEDIC MATHS … What will happen now is that the top Mathematicians from the West will be invited to meet the top Mathematicians from the East and an importance International Conference is brewing, to determine the final and eternal Truth of Pi that the Ancients knew.... … Soon, new maths will emerge linking the relationship of Pi and Phi, and as most scholars know, the only 3-Dimensional symbol that contains Pi and Phi is the Cheops Pyramid of Egypt that really is the invisible sacred geometry of Light. … Bharati Krsna Tirthaji’s book on Vedic Mathematics hints that the pattern or secret in determining the Pi ratio was based on 32. ….. Shiva’s Method for Determining Pi, is based on division of the Circle into 32 distinct parts, a little similar to the Flower-Of-Life pattern that most people are now familiar with. www.jainmathemagics.com/page/10/default.aspMathematicians will find this site fascinating. I have can attest that 'it works'. PS - 32 parts to the circle (Flower of Life), 32 paths on the Tree of Life, any connection you think? I have no idea myself but the question did cross my mind. Maat
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Post by hollandr on Feb 9, 2007 3:43:57 GMT
jmd
I have had to reconsider my assertion that the Earth is not a sacred planet. it may be that in the last year or so that it has become sacred. So that now even the most reactionary of politicians seem to be prepared to work towards stewardship
Cheers
Russell
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Post by hollandr on Feb 9, 2007 3:45:01 GMT
Maat
Here are some items that might be of interest:
* Billings, Montana, November 1926: In the Number 3 Eagle Mine at Bear Creek, a tooth, declared by dentists to be the second lower molar of a human being, was found in so-called “70 million year old” Eocene coal.
* Italy: In 1958, a human skeleton was found in a mine, the coal of which was “11 million years old.”
* Freiberg, Saxony: “In the coal collection in the Mining Academy in Freiberg, there is a puzzling human skull composed of brown coal and manganiferous and phosphatic limonite.
* Tuscany, Italy, 1958: Professor Johannes Hurzeler of the Museum of Natural History in Basil, Switzerland, found in a “10 million year old” lump of Miocene coal the jawbone of a child flattened like a piece of sheet iron.
* Dr. Henry Morris reports having interviewed a coal miner in West Virginia who had found a perfectly formed human leg that had changed into coal.
* Castenedolo, Italy, 1860: Skulls of two children, a man and a woman of the "modern" type, were found in undisturbed Pliocene strata "at least 12 million years old."
* Olmo, Italy, 1863: Another similar find was made in Pliocene strata.
* Calaveris, California, 1886: A skull identified as unmistakenly human was found in the middle of a mountain, likewise in Pliocene strata. * Moab, Utah, May, 1971: Lin Ottinger found teeth and parts of two skeletons of “Homo sapiens” (“modern” man) inside a geological stratum “100 million years old.”
* Gilman, Colorado: A human skull was found in Cretaceous strata “70 million years old.”
* La Sal, Utah: Two more skeletons in Cretaceous strata.
* Macoupin County, Illinois: A human skeleton found in 1862 in a coalfield of the Carboniferous period was reported in The Geologist, a standard journal. It was in rock up to “300 million years old.”
* Franklin County, Mo.: A human skeleton was found in Silurian rock “300 million years old.”
There are two issues here:
- is our current dating for humans correct?
- is our current dating for geology correct?
Cheers
Russell
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Post by moose on Feb 9, 2007 5:07:59 GMT
Russell are you able to give any sources for your information? I'd like to read up on that. Regards Sean M
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Post by hollandr on Feb 9, 2007 5:56:34 GMT
Sean I suggest you start with Forbidden Archeology by Cremo www.mcremo.com/You can borrow the book from the BCC library Cheers Russell
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Post by a on Feb 9, 2007 7:38:03 GMT
jmd I have had to reconsider my assertion that the Earth is not a sacred planet. it may be that in the last year or so that it has become sacred. So that now even the most reactionary of politicians seem to be prepared to work towards stewardship Some thoughts:- 1. Can you imagine how much unease this may have caused at the global powers that be level. On the one hand the day was known to be coming, but actually being here. A few sweaty collars I would imagine. 2. Stewardship. As you correctly note it could be linked to the above. It could also be linked to realising that some power and control tomorrow and long term is better than no power and control tomorrow as the Earth resets itself. Though I accept that this is related to the above. It could also be as simple as money motivated, as for the moment there is money being made in "going green". Then again in reality no country is truly independent anymore as our problems are global in nature and require global solutions. Fractures no longer offer power and control, fractures simply weaken and make relatively impotent. Times have changed. It could also be a realisation of the sheer numbers of old souls that are incarnating here at present, better to work with the flow than drown in it. Anyway it is a fascinating time to watch as the human race takes a step out of adolescence into adulthood. For anyone who does actively pursue the hidden mysteries of nature and science it must be a fascinating moment in time.
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Post by Tamrin on Feb 9, 2007 9:55:53 GMT
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Post by Tamrin on Feb 9, 2007 21:31:46 GMT
Having been taught to be cautious, I would be skeptical of conclusions reached regarding anomalous finds, dated on the basis of stratum context, (especially within coal deposits), without some reliable corroboration. Strata can be disrupted by earthquakes, volcanic activity, subsidence, floods, erosion (especially in river beds), disturbance by tree roots, tunneling by animals, mining by man (including early, poorly disciplined archaeological excavations), etc. There may be some fun to be had by scientists stepping back from the middle ground in this dating game and letting the Christian fundamentalists and the Hindu fundamentalists take on each other.
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Post by hollandr on Feb 10, 2007 1:40:53 GMT
>I would be skeptical of conclusions reached regarding anomalous finds, dated on the basis of stratum context, Disrupted stratum are generally the first thing to look for with anomalous objects I am reminded of a tour guide near Rotorua in New Zealand. When taking scientists past an outcrop of sandstone she commonly asks them for a rough dating. She gets millions of years. Then she explains that the outcrop of rock was not there when she was a girl The same observations of sandstone are recorded by Charles Fort en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_FortWe may have a significant problem in our understanding of geology Cheers Russell
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