The Grand Master Mason through his Grand Sec must also give prior warning to PGL and the particular daughter lodge whom he is about visit. He must also give details of how he wants the visitation to run, as per our Laws and Const. They are not allowed to turn up out of the blue as members of GLoS. They can however attend as members of their own lodge. Likewise, a GLoS deputation can only be headed by a rank no lower than Grand Junior Warden, unless authorised by the GMM. This means that no GL officer can just turn up and expect to be treated as such.
Can you clarify that for me? Supposing a group of Scottish Lodge members had over-stepped the line of reasonable conduct. "Management" feel that the matter is best addressed by an arse-kicking at a Lodge meeting. Would they have to give warning that they were coming?
Julian, according to our "good book" whatever the reason for the visit, the Deputation must give warning and details to the PGL and the lodge in question regarding the visit. That said, I personaly have never heard of any GL officer visiting a lodge to give them a bollocking. If it were to "try " and happen I would hate to think of the arguments that would flare up at the meeting. Most disiplinary matters are seen to by a specific body within Grand committee, and are dealt with via letters.
The reason for this is that several lodges inculding all the ones local to me, carry out their business prior to allowing any visitors into the meeting. Therefore if GL or PGL were to visit to give a bollocking then it would need to be done before any visitors being allowed in. So prior notice would have to be given.
In Scotland the PGL/PGM must visit each lodge once a year and witness some type of degree work. These visitations are always on the same meeting night every year. My own lodge is the 3rd Monday in Sept. Notification of these meetings are never given as they are seen as routine. Lodges would be notified of visits other than these.
At these visitations the PGM gives a report on the degree work and the lodge over the past 12 months. The PG Sec and PG Treas also check the lodge books to make sure they are up to date and correct. Any problems with the lodge would usualy be dealt with at the end of the meeting by taking the RWM and Sec to the side for a quiet word.
Getting back to AMD.... What is so nice about AMD, OSM and many other side orders is that the Provincial (District or whatever) Ruler of the order often tries to be at as many meetings as possible and only come in formally at Installations. Quite often they will take an active part in the meeting - elsewhere I have mentioned an OSM meeting where an unfortunate shortage of officers meant that the candidate was at one point being conducted by one Provincial Ruler, with another on his left - sandwiched between two chains! It made his night extra special.
Lew Finnis UGLE 8093 PProvSGD(Worcs) GL/BFG 881 PDGDC and various other orders
You are absolutely correct! I think these smaller side orders are full of really great guys, a good friend of mine is being Installed as WM in his Allied and I believe The GM is going along unofficially as his guest. But surely this is what Freemasonry is about? We are all equal and all Freemasons!? Friends are friends no matter how high ranking!
There is nothing more easy than to come to the gate of truth; there is nothing more difficult than to enter it. This applies to most of the wise of this world.
Yes I too have found this in the Higher Degrees, no pomposity. Last week at AMD our "Chain" turned up on his own and was great company, and I have seen High Rankers take part in Ceremonies when as is often the case, Office Holders are absent. That is one of the things I enjoy in the Higher Degrees.
Freeman of the City of Prince George, British Columbia 4th Degree Order of Skinner & Probyn's 18th Degree A&H Art. Company of Mass, USA Orator of the Planispheres &c &c &c GM, Order of Acrimonious Virgin
omni: In my Lodge the Secretary is a hugh bully along with control issues. if anyone even asks a question he files masonic charges against them. He controls members mostly because they are afraid of him.
Apr 16, 2018 1:07:49 GMT
foriamhim: To omni: Grow some balls, that lodge is yours as well as every member in that lodge. If you are right, its not your problem. Nobody likes the ugliness of masonic charges. Light will always illuminate darkness, don't be afraid, be a better man.
May 27, 2018 15:37:09 GMT
foriamhim: Oh, I am a new member and just wanted to say hi...
May 27, 2018 15:39:10 GMT