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Post by maat on Jan 21, 2008 0:42:06 GMT
Truly, human ingenuity is remarkable! You're pretty ingenious yourself, Tamrin, lets see you take each point raised in this link which was posted by Russell, re the plant abnormalities in 'real' crop circles and come up with a feasible answer for why it is so. www.bltresearch.com/plantab.htmlI would like to see that. Maat |
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Post by Antonius on Jan 21, 2008 6:33:40 GMT
If it was to simply discuss correspondences, apparently drawn by aluminium foil wearing types , without testing their "evidence," then count me out. consider yourself counted out. i will be seeing you making much more productive use of your time in topics u are actualy interested in. and since u feel it fit to provide me with such a thurough psychoanalasys i feel it only fair to offer one of my own: you made a huge mistake when you murdered the part of you that wants to play. did some1 hurt you? |
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Post by Tamrin on Jan 21, 2008 6:58:05 GMT
and since u feel it fit to provide me with such a thurough psychoanalasys ... Are you perhaps confusing me with Bro. Shrinkmason? |
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Post by Tamrin on Jan 21, 2008 6:59:14 GMT
you made a huge mistake when you murdered the part of you that wants to play. Ah Hah! So that's what you are doing — Playing! Like the Zen maxim, "When hungry, eat: when tired, sleep," I play when playful. |
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Post by Tamrin on Jan 21, 2008 7:06:14 GMT
Truly, human ingenuity is remarkable! You're pretty ingenious yourself, Tamrin, lets see you take each point raised in this link which was posted by Russell, re the plant abnormalities in 'real' crop circles and come up with a feasible answer for why it is so. www.bltresearch.com/plantab.htmlI would like to see that. Maat Bro. Maat, First tell me what you make of it and we will discusss it from there, ever bearing-in-mind the fallacy of Negative Proof, (exhaustively covered in your What Would You Accept As Proof? thread). Perhaps you too are "playing" in this instance, as when you wrote: Tamrin, just ignore us, we are having fun. |
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Post by maat on Jan 21, 2008 23:24:02 GMT
You're pretty ingenious yourself, Tamrin, lets see you take each point raised in this link which was posted by Russell, re the plant abnormalities in 'real' crop circles and come up with a feasible answer for why it is so. www.bltresearch.com/plantab.htmlI would like to see that. Maat Bro. Maat, First tell me what you make of it and we will discusss it from there, ever bearing-in-mind the fallacy of Negative Proof, (exhaustively covered in your What Would You Accept As Proof? thread). Perhaps you too are "playing" in this instance, as when you wrote: Tamrin, just ignore us, we are having fun. Hi Tamrin I have no explanation for the many anomolies, I have to leave that to the scientists who study these things. I do know that a couple of old fella's with a couple planks have no idea of how to produce those results either. So - a mystery. I love mysteries, they are fun! Probably why I like Masonry so much. And I totally amazed that a throw away line I made back in August 9, 2007 should be still on your mind! Are you sure you are not a woman ;D Playing is not a waste of time, playing is constructive and not destructive, it increases the amount of laughter, contentment, joy in the world. Should be more of it. Masons that play together, stay together? Cheers Maat |
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Post by Tamrin on Jan 22, 2008 7:29:47 GMT
Bro. Maat
You are again twisting my words. I have never condemned play, as such. Rather, I would say, when playing, play: When investigating, investigate but, above all, (since it is all to easy to become lost in either play or study), be honest with one's self (and courteous to others) by being mindful of the difference. Play can indeed be creative, but just as we are taught to lead of with the left foot and follow-up with the right, so too should we encourage playful intuition but, before taking it too seriously, follow-up with reason.
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Post by maat on Jan 22, 2008 23:05:17 GMT
Bro. Maat You are again twisting my words. Tamrin, I was not referring to your words or inferring anything from them, I was making a personal statement. IMO - playing is not a waste of time etc etc... Maat |
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Post by lauderdale on Jan 23, 2008 0:03:27 GMT
"playing is not a waste of time "
Most assuredly it is not! Indeed some modern child psychologists claim that the children and youth of today have suffered for the lack of free play and thus using their imaginations and learning as part of the process.
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Post by maat on Jan 23, 2008 0:27:04 GMT
For Windtimber as promised...
The book I read stated that in 1990/91 there were 60 reported crop circles and up to the time the book was published there were 40+ reported each year. The following states were named in particular..
Missouri, Kansas, Florida Illinois, Tennessee, Iowa, N.Carolina, Oklahoma, New York, Washington, Pennsylvania, Minnesota.
Circles were found in crops of corn, wheat, barley, sugar, beans, alfalfa, cotton and marshgrass.
Alpharadiation ranged from 28% below to 198% above control samples.
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Post by Tamrin on Jan 23, 2008 18:17:13 GMT
Tamrin, I was not referring to your words or inferring anything from them, I was making a personal statement. IMO - playing is not a waste of time etc etc... My apologies. I was misled by your post being addressed to me and by the context of the exchange. |
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Post by maat on Jan 24, 2008 4:34:46 GMT
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Post by Antonius on Jan 30, 2008 4:48:23 GMT
when i said 'play' i wasnt talking about a chairdance...
were not likely to agree on this untill new information presents itself, so can we please not
limit ourselves to this pointless real/fake debate?
as i said before, there are lots of thing more interesting to discuss here, like:
does any1 have an oppinion on how it is that england has a piece of land that mirrors a
part of the landscape on mars?
does any1 have any oppinions on some of the masonic related comments made in the video
i linked to at the start of this topic?
alot of it seems hokey to me, but some of it might have some truth to it.
ill need some help figuring out what is valid and what is not.
is this 'Sidon' he talks about the same place as 'Tyre' of wich Hiram was king?
and what about this geometry stuff suggested by hoagland?
is there anything in that, aside from the equilatiral triange that comes up in masonry,
or otherwise has meaning byond the obvious?
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Post by Tamrin on Jan 30, 2008 7:02:22 GMT
is this 'Sidon' he talks about the same place as 'Tyre' of wich Hiram was king? BTW, Sidon is about 40 km (25 miles) north of Tyre (about half way between Tyre and Beirut). |
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Post by Tamrin on Jan 31, 2008 10:33:30 GMT
does any1 have an oppinion on how it is that england has a piece of land that mirrors a
part of the landscape on mars? Our minds are adept at identifying patterns, even where none are intended. Give someone with enough imagination two random maps of sufficient complexity and they can draw remarkable correspondences. Of course, on one the point of correlation for a feature may be in its center and on the other at the base; some significant features will not be among the correspondences; and on one we shall, for instance, say Sidon is Tyre. For more along these lines, read, Amazing Pyramid "Facts" |
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Post by maximus on Jan 31, 2008 13:03:06 GMT
Our minds are adept at identifying patterns, even where none are intended. Precisely. |
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Post by willied77 on Jan 31, 2008 16:57:35 GMT
Yes it is a known fact that we learn and memorise acts, symbols and images much better than any written letter.
Most cultures in our history used pictures, yet we devised letters thinking we are smarter.
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Post by Antonius on Jan 31, 2008 20:00:17 GMT
looc at the image dude, were not talking about patterns, were talking about several square miles of landscape.
were talking about angles, ratios, distances and the general absecens of any features not mirrored.
were talking about laying one transparant photograph over another photograph and having the landscape line up 100% perfectly.
you cant brush this off as a coincidence, thats just dismissive.
btw: this doesnt relate to sidon or tyr btw, sidon is mentioned in the video in another context
and is suggested as somehow being connected to sidonia on mars and the forbidden fruit.
im not sold on that part either.
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Post by Tamrin on Jan 31, 2008 20:51:49 GMT
For the second time of asking, please do not call me "dude." Remember, there is not much chance of anyone winning a lottery, but someone will. Remarkable coincidences do happen, especially if one is selective (and there is a universe of options from which to choose). What is most remarkable in this instance is that the person was sufficiently familiar with both regions to be able to recognise similarities. In any case, I am not impressed by the correspondences. The only correspondence appears to be roughly similar (but not exact) triangles (which I expect are drawn to different scales and the points of which appear somewhat contrived). The "face" and the "city" have no corresponding features on the Avebury map and what appears to be a large Martian plateau within the triangle is similarly unrepresented on the other: Hardly a mirror image. |
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Post by hollandr on Mar 2, 2008 22:21:52 GMT
Sniffles
You may like to consider whether there are multiple sources of crop circles with differing agendas
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