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Post by vajranagini on Jun 9, 2011 4:21:44 GMT
No doubt you invoked "something"... just not "the Angel of the Sun". Hence the inability to "remember". Next time your so-called 'Angel of the Sun' shows up, greet him/her it with a hand-drawn Planetary Square of the Sun combined with the signs of an Adeptus Minor, meanwhile invoking the Divine Name of the Sphere of Tiphareth on the Tree of Life. (if you can have burning on the altar two candles lit by the fire of the Sun at precisely 3:00 that afternoon, so much the better) and see if THOSE things don't improve his memory!
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Post by foxfires on May 11, 2012 17:51:07 GMT
Hi All, I am new to this Forum, I do not suffer from too much enlightenment or dogma, my take is on all of the information, that we all carry pieces of the truth, there is no right and wrong, just events we do not feel lead to experience. But the concept of 36 righteous men (Jews) makes a lot of things viewable in a different light Yes I have seen this power knocked off of people and did not understand what happened when Stephen from the bible was stoned by Paul. I am not saying this as an absolute, but things get clearer for understanding. This explains why so many follow the bible and it does not make sense, as they are like in a waiting pool and future resource to become Spirit Filled, and some loose hope, and feel God or this issue is a lie. But the directions / descriptions in the bible and ancient scriptures, and new age materials all explain things we are supposed to feel, not think, as Plato's Allegory of the cave explains no one can be told the truth, they have to be held long enough in place to see it and then they feel the truth. So the minimum of 36 righteous men as Jew's might also imply there are other religion bare minimum requirements. So the total could be much higher LIKE hint Hint Hint 144 I mean we are also supposed to be spiritual here and knowing of the yin yang balance on earth, so some descriptions are just what we need to hear. And the exact details are not so important This theory puts the bible book of Job in a whole new light As there is the concept of God and demi urges, and there are all here to serve a purpose So yes this definitely places some puzzle pieces into position for alternate concepts. There is also the concept of the duality realm that was merged here and Lucifer being a planet or star that lost it's spark or flame, and was relocated upon this realm, as this makes more sense that we are actually planetary beings in a realm where duality is present, and those we have no peace with, or enemies keep showing up till we stop feeling negative energy toward them. And the concept of Jesus being born of a virgin might be more along the lines his parents were part of the minimum righteous 36 souls here. Just a theory, not selling it, just another way to read something like the bible and not poke holes in it, as many feel the need to prove from what they know or how they understand. So born of the Holly Spirit could mean something different, But
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Post by maat on May 15, 2012 0:02:08 GMT
Foxfires.... You might like to read about the possibility of the Red Sea (Bible) being a reference to our blood. TURNING WATER INTO BLOOD
All this analysis may have seemed to take the theme far from its base in the Red Sea. But as this symbol represents the human body, or its blood, and this constitutes the very basis of human life, and the body is inseparably linked with the soul, the Red Sea may be said to be the chief ingredient in all human problems, whether physical, religious, philosophical or psychological. If the human body is not an essential element in all man's problems, it would be so only under the conditions that Hindu religion seems so strongly to suggest to us mortals, that we may so spiritualize our consciousness that we may release the soul completely from the incubus of the flesh. We need to be reminded here of St. Paul's pointed assertion of the connection our souls sustain to the body, when he says: "For God, who has caused the light to shine out of the darkness hath shined in our hearts,...but we have this treasure in earthen vessels." This can be taken also in close connection with the statement of Greek philosophy: "I am a child of earth and the starry skies, but my race is of heaven alone." Yes, heaven is our true, original and basic home; but the Father sends us forth periodically from "that imperial palace whence we came," since it is the function of spirit or soul to impregnate matter with the dynamic of the divine Mind, so that all life, all the universe may reflect the thought of the creative brain. pc93.tripod.com/redsea.htm
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Post by foxfires on May 15, 2012 16:08:27 GMT
Matt, I followed the link and spent some time assessing what was share there, the document is GT 21,000 words. From a kind form of expression, there seems to be information sources designed to keep us bound in our upper limits of human / god capability. There are what I consider locks placed in a dimension, and sliding through them in angular movement keeps us at a lower harmonic frequency. This thought is knowledge or head knowledge, is something to distract us from our feeling, and keep us stuck in this realm. But there is nothing wrong with anyone's choice of what they desire, as this is a free will domain, but please know, there are some principalities who reside here and try to maintain the balance and keep the energy of others too low for their ascension. But the key to this realm seems to be the emotions we carry and express, associated with the knowledge we have.
Thanks for Sharing!!!
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Post by foxfires on May 16, 2012 14:47:14 GMT
It's Ma'at - Khemetian (Egyptian) Netfer (God/Goddess) representing Harmony. Matt is a guy's name. As long as I have people to correct me on word usage, why do I need to remember these rules, as if it were not for my poor language usage, and you had nothing else to share, save what I did wrong, how would we otherwise converse. But if the world were perfect it would be a quiet realm of occupancy
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Post by foxfires on May 16, 2012 19:47:04 GMT
I do not appreciate your sarcasm. We have had quite enough of that on here lately. Maat is a female, you called her Matt, more than once. I called your attention to it, end of story. I see you are are out of appreciation, and I apologize for getting you there with my misspelling issue, my bad. I guess my first contact with you means you are the one who will point out my short comings, good to know you will keep me on my toes. To Maat: I am very sorry, my spell check, made the changes, and I did not catch this. Please forgive me!
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Post by foxfires on May 16, 2012 20:26:25 GMT
On the issue of the 36 righteous I wonder if these have an ability to judge others, or to request their judgement... Something along these lines, I do remember there are some people that when you hurt their feeling or offend them things did not go well for me, shortly afterwards, it was like karma was on a short string or something like this. as this puts the verse in a whole different light. Luke 17:2 It would be better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he was cast into the sea, than that he should cause one of these little ones to stumble.
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Post by foxfires on May 16, 2012 22:04:31 GMT
The 36 righteous (or Just) men refers to the 36 celestial decans, each of which rules ten days of the year, and personifies them into watchmen of the Universe. In Jewish Astrology each sign of the Zodiac was given three faces and each decan bore the name of one of the Biblical characters from Adam to Ezra. This idea was eventually taken into Kabbalistic literature. Thanks for sharing this information! Do you have any personal opinion on the matter. Like for instance, I feel that Sampson was one of these righteous dudes. But only when his hair was not cut, and he sort of was not bound by the 10 day limit
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Post by foxfires on May 17, 2012 0:12:48 GMT
I agree in part of this assertions, save who claims to have the keys. As the heart can be the keys, and this is not knowledge, but feelings
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Post by cwhite on May 17, 2012 14:40:02 GMT
What I found interesting about Lamed Vav Tzadikim is the Lamed and Vav. The Phoencian equivalent for Lamed and Vav would be the Goad and Hook. Tools of a shepherd, perhaps the story was a tool to keep the flock in line?
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Post by foxfires on May 17, 2012 14:41:32 GMT
In my opinion, and that of others who have the key, the Bible is an Astrotheological work, as are all the major religions. They encode the movements of the heavens using metaphor and allegory. The problem is that corrupt priesthoods hid this knowledge from the common people, enacting prohibitions against astrology while practicing it themselves. The true nature of the tale thus told was forgotten, and a historicalization was imposed, leading to centuries of bloody warfare over who's Great Wish Fairy in the Sky was the REAL one. Anubis, I feel and appreciate the honesty in this explanation. As I fell this to be a major issue. So I do want to say very few understand the principal that religion is almost in most sense of the form, a cult and the religion with the strongest mantra might win the war. But this was never designed to be a war zone, but free will allows this activity. I pull differentiation on your assertion, and wanted to kindly say that Love conquers all. So the ones who have deceived the masses, did so for (please allow some degree of leniency for me here to say this) good reason. And the battle / anger needs to stop somewhere. So I do not feel they were wrong in any past actions. That does not translate to I would necessarily do as they did or do the same. Just people do the best they understand till their heart gives out, and stops working. Some of the greatest mistakes, by humans lead to the most dedicated individuals through their repentance and decision to change. I pose an hypothetical example of if I wrong you in this life, I owe you a debt of karmic service in another life. This sound like mumbo jumbo pie in the sky and does not apply, some might say. Well if we consider we are energy here and a part of a celestial creation, with rule sets to keep thing going on default rules, that go deeper than published text as things from before creation can be invoked. We understand that we are all part of a whole, and have to sooner or later become okay with others decide to do. I use the analogy of working with people like a job. We are either hired and have permission to fix something or we are trespassing. People who live under laws and rules do not get that the Heart can turn on with fire baptism of the Holly Spirit. But if a heart turns on and a person is filled with negative emotions toward another, the event can be terminal. So feeling others did something wrong, are not always in our best or worst interest. As if pieces of people need to work things out in another life time to bring completion to a soul with as little pain memory as possible. So we are from I see at a completion point of finishing emotional trials. And any emotions we conquer here we get to keep. LOLFS So as Christ was claimed to have said, be ye as little children. So the bible from my take or perspective has escape / egress codes in almost every portion we look in. And so do many other religions.
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Post by foxfires on May 17, 2012 14:45:51 GMT
What I found interesting about Lamed Vav Tzadikim is the Lamed and Vav. The Phoencian equivalent for Lamed and Vav would be the Goad and Hook. Tools of a shepherd, perhaps the story was a tool to keep the flock in line? Yes and we are talking life and death selections and bonding to another species. The story of David before he was a king was he fought lions and bears to protect what he was left in charge of. the flock of sheep. but he might also be asked to dress a sheep for a meal by his parents and he was a ruddy boy
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Post by cwhite on May 17, 2012 16:02:39 GMT
What I found interesting about Lamed Vav Tzadikim is the Lamed and Vav. The Phoencian equivalent for Lamed and Vav would be the Goad and Hook. Tools of a shepherd, perhaps the story was a tool to keep the flock in line? ^93rd reply^ Can you feel the love? 93 upside down could be seen as a 36...
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Post by beersheva on Mar 1, 2014 4:39:49 GMT
Very interesting, the Lamed-Vavniks, Shabtai Zvi, and the numerical attributions of the Sun. Where was Hermeticism in all this? Dam Onvim, Aryeh, Yirah and Gevurah? The shem ha-mephorash. Careful of the Solar angels...someone could get quite burnt or even fried. Kabbalah says that at this time, THE END OF DAYS, that the 72-lettered NAME (Shem ha Meforash) will cause the world to be renovated by Holy Fire from the higher worlds of the Etz Chaim (Tree of Life) and cause all evil to come to an end. 72 Angels operate through that NAME related to the 36 decans of the ZODIACAL LIGHT. 72 is related to 216 ---YIRAH (awe of G-d), DAM ONVIM (blood of grapes, the central secret of Gan Edan), ARYEH (lion), and GEVURAH (power, might, strength, TRUTH) and to 666 as the SPIRIT of the SUN.
Kabbalah says that the 72 -lettered NAME is to be found in the 3 passeges that decribe the splitting of the RED SEA, or SEA OF REEDS, and that those passeges conceal the deepest secret of TORAH.
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Post by beejay on Mar 1, 2014 6:15:24 GMT
I must admit I struggle with the 36 Righteous Men (even assuming the "men" included women).
If the 36 Righteous Men have fundamental importance then it seems to me that they must be known in a number of traditions, but not necessarily in that form.
Any suggestions?
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Post by beersheva on Mar 1, 2014 21:05:08 GMT
The only tradition that I know of that mentions the "36 tzadikim" is the Jewish one. A "tzadik" is a Jewish person who has attained to a certain spiritual level beyond the ordinary, like the Ba'al Shem Tov. Usually kabbalists of secret existance that suffer terribly for the evil done in the world.
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