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Post by bod on Aug 9, 2007 14:29:31 GMT
defo - abbrevation of 'definitely'
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Post by bod on Jun 15, 2005 9:04:47 GMT
A mere strippling Ted! plenty of mileage - you don't even look 'tyred' yet.....guess it was all those goodyears in uniform....ok I'm going........
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Post by bod on Jun 14, 2005 7:54:02 GMT
Ted - you look much younger than I expected.....
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Post by bod on Apr 4, 2005 12:19:14 GMT
I can see it fine JM - looks like it worked!
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Post by bod on Dec 23, 2004 16:14:52 GMT
Nah - Ben was still in nappies then, he didn't start making shirts 'til he went to high school....
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Post by bod on Dec 23, 2004 12:58:20 GMT
Nicer shirt! ;D
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Post by bod on Nov 17, 2004 7:07:16 GMT
Hmm, think I'm gonna be a lot nicer to Leo now! He's huge! bod & mrs bod
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Post by bod on Aug 23, 2007 9:41:56 GMT
No, not really JMD, it is simply the same as everything elese expressed here, an opinion, expressed and shared by some of the inhabitants of planet earth.
Philip, hope to see you here again soon. Very soon.
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Post by bod on Aug 22, 2007 8:58:57 GMT
I've heard it seriously 'explained' that the reason to exclude women from attending sport venues in Iran is in part due to 'Male Bonding' and the detraction women present would otherwise bring to the arena... what a load of rubbish. But then, we need to put our own house in order too! There were also similar concerns to given women the vote - and we saw where that got us! Really? Who 'explained' it that way? I ask because it suggests to me a fundamental lack of understanding of the regime and the ethos towards women in Iran, which is predicated on the Islamic traditionalist view of womeon as objects that inflame men's desires, and thus should be shut away.
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Post by bod on Aug 21, 2007 17:12:00 GMT
So how about all those oppressed women living under islam in australia?
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Post by bod on Aug 21, 2007 15:43:15 GMT
It is certainly one of the easier conspiracy theories to believe, that there is a feminist inspired agenda that is targetting male societal groupings with the express intent of forcing integration of womeon, without allowing the reverse to happen, in the name of 'sisterhood'.
I'm not saying I believe it, or its true, but it is one of the conspiracy theories doing the rounds.
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Post by bod on Aug 21, 2007 14:00:17 GMT
JMD< depends who you talk to, there is a breakaway movement from the Scout Association that maintains male only troops. My question qould be how is the Guide movement exempt from such integration.
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Post by bod on Aug 21, 2007 11:57:15 GMT
I disagree, it is not the correct thing to do to force single sex institutions to accept the opposite sex. We have the dichotomy here in the UK that the Scout Association was forced to open up to girls, but the Guide Association is still single sex. Ridiculous. I think that people need to accept that there is nothing wrong with single sex institutions, and forced integration is un-ethical.
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Post by bod on Aug 21, 2007 10:54:10 GMT
That is a somewhat different situation as those agencies are in fact bound by legislation, such as the adoption act and other specific legal instruments.
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Post by bod on Aug 21, 2007 10:01:40 GMT
It should be recognised that while masonic bodies are subject tot he laws of the lands in which they are based, as independent bodies, seperate from the state, they are not bound by conventions such as the ones mentioned by ichabod.
And tws, your final comment in the post above regarding speaking japanese is dissappointing, I expect better from you. Its like me saying something like: After all, if it wasn't for the white man ther would be a hell of a lot more buffalo's in the US, and the native americans would be the power holders....
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Post by bod on Aug 13, 2007 14:40:32 GMT
To my mind, where you see hierarchies, I see the concept of 'roles'. We all have competing roles in our lives, our duties in our roles as sons/daughters may sometimes put us in conflict with our responsibilites as wives/husbands/partners, and draw a parallel accordingly. So in my role as a UGLE mason I am bound to respect and follow the guidelines of my GL, and so I will not visit a constitution I am not permitted to. However, I also feel have a role as a 'mason' without UGLE and that is how I attempt to carry myself in the world, and also the role I use when on forums and the like.....
Thats how it works for me anyhoo.....
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Post by bod on Aug 10, 2007 20:45:59 GMT
I perhaps would feel less bitter about this subject and with the depressing frequency it comes up if the discussion was more even handed than it has been in the past, after all, male craft GL's arent the only ones to impose inter-visitation regulations, are they? I share your feelings, I've got in to a bit of trouble before when pointing out that some people are chucking eggs at the UGLE with a "holier than thou" approach when their own Obediences are not exactly practising "Freemasonry Universal" . M I must confess I am getting a little bit hopeful about this thread tho..... I mentioned earlier I would like the GL's to work together under some form of agreement, unlike bro brandt I believe this will be the key to getting individual freemasons to play nicely together on a wider scale, rather than vice versa. For as long as the 'HQ' posits one form of opinion there will be those that follow it to the letter, thats human nature. Do I feel that some of the pronouncements made over 100 years ago should be revisited? Hell, yes. Do I think it will happen? yes When? How long is a bit of string? I have been greatly encouraged by some of the recent initiatives frm UGLE, and also by the speeches made by the Pro GM, I have a small hope that the initiative to review things will be taken within my lifetime.
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Post by bod on Aug 10, 2007 16:15:14 GMT
But why and or how do you come to the conclusion it is a single, political issue? I can't really answer you until I understand the ground you stand on, cos I don't want to make any assupmtions about what you think or feel, so sorry for answering a question with a question, but hopefully it means I will be able to give you a better answer in the end.
If you are suggesting that the only reason recognition is not extended is down to the issue of men/women and all that, I would fundamentally disagree - it is a much more complex issue than just that.
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Post by bod on Aug 10, 2007 15:25:55 GMT
Happy to - if you could explain to me why you believe it is so simple
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Post by bod on Aug 10, 2007 14:50:27 GMT
How does it get used as 'punishment' or 'reward'? It is an administrative tool to guide members of particular GL's as to who they can visit, and who the GL's themselves will enter into masonic communication with. As has been demonstrated in this discussion, it isn't a simple matter, and those who think it is ignore a lot of the detail, imo.
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