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Post by bod on Jun 12, 2006 18:13:40 GMT
Hello again Simon - freemasonry does not spell out a dogmatic code of morality, however, stuff such as sleeping with another masons wife would be considered immoral.
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Post by bod on Jun 7, 2006 21:43:19 GMT
You never disappoint Stewart! ;D
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Post by bod on Jun 7, 2006 21:47:26 GMT
It doesn't matter if it is read or if it is done from memory - familiarity with the piece of ritual being worked is the key - not if you have managed to make the several thousand words stick in your head or are reading them from a page. If someone is familiar enough with the ritual then reading won't be an issue.
I suspect that a lot of people have got hung up on the ritual being memorised and think it is something we 'must' do.
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Post by bod on Jun 5, 2006 17:46:14 GMT
Lew, its not just advancing years - I have to remember around 30 different system passwords, people who work in offices with networked pc's need to rember at least one, if not more. There is a hell of a lot that we have to cram into our brains on a daily basis that we didn't have to in the past, plus people do not have the time to memorise chunks of ritual - and frankly it is very intimidating, and exceptionally difficult, especially as you are using language and terminology that is now not in common useage.
I still try to memorise it, but it ain't easy.
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Post by bod on Jun 3, 2006 13:21:22 GMT
Lee - being the sort of person you are I'm sure you will work with the preceptors to ensure that the younger bretheren coming through get the knowledge and understanding they need. Ultimately this is the only way to change things and influence the future of our individual lodges - it is very easy to piss & whine from the sidlelines - more people need to step up to the plate and make the changes happen.
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Post by bod on Jun 5, 2006 17:47:18 GMT
OK - didn't think a thread on humilty would veer off onto Dom/Sub conversations, but as you wish.....
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Post by bod on Jun 2, 2006 20:16:28 GMT
True Karen, for amarriage to really work each should see the other as equal and complimentary - or at least thats what Mrs Bod sez..... Must get back to the washing up......before she tells me off....
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Post by bod on Jun 2, 2006 7:46:18 GMT
Woman? don't need one! I sacked the last one for nagging! ..... Please do not tell me how to live my life. Ah - you love it really Steve.......
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Post by bod on Jun 1, 2006 21:02:47 GMT
Aye SMIB is so mote it be, Gio - your turn to explain what you are on about now!
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Post by bod on Jun 1, 2006 20:58:48 GMT
I'm loving the answers on this thread, Ma'at - Nelson Mandela's words need to be given more prominence, he is a man who really understands humility and forgiveness.
Stewart, while your observations may help some, for me they are inaccurate. I work for a company that has over 44,000 employees worldwide, 6,000 of us in London, my immediate managers are very decent - at 37 and with 3 or 4 (I loose count) different careers under my belt I'm quite clued in to who is good and who isn't and very quickly get out of somewhere if I have made a wrong decision. I've been in my particular field for about 12 years (IT) and experienced 3 different business sectors as an IT bod, investment banking, where I am now, is the one that I have found the most challenging and exciting, and it suits me. Thanks for the concern, and for taking the time to write such a lengthy response.
I guess the main reason for this thread was me thinking back to me as a young Bod fresh from the valleys, in my early 20's I was an arrogant, proud individual - and it got me into some severe scrapes, and lost me some friends. Over the years I have mellowed, I think we all do, and the pride no longer gets in the way so much.
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Post by bod on May 31, 2006 22:58:56 GMT
Thanks guys, Gio - I particularly like your breakdown of the idea, and no, Stewart, I'm not looking for personal examples, as you rightly point out it is more than a little contradictory in a thread on humility! I work in an environment that is very ego driven, the shouty people get things done, and are seen to be getting things done. It doesn't bother me too much as I'm someone that prefers to use more subtle ways of achieving things, but I find myself observing situations where humility wouldn't get you very far - even tho it may be the most effective strategy. This lead me to thinking about humility, its something that is pointed out at least once a year to an active craft mason (under UGLE anyway), and is one of the driving principles (IMO) of freemasonry - the constituent parts of the lodge (the experienced and the inexperienced) and the way they need to work together to achieve the work of the lodge. It wouldn't be ideal to have the neophytes getting too big for their aprons and through ignorance mess up - likewise the wise men in the corner shouldn't sit idly by and let the newbies mess up and laugh at them. We should hear more about humilty......
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Post by bod on May 31, 2006 20:15:32 GMT
Humility is an essential masonic quality, but one we don't spend much time dwelling on.
What does humility mean to you - and how do you excercise it in your daily life?
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Post by bod on May 27, 2006 12:44:55 GMT
Blimey! Things are changing, mind you this was well overdue, and frankly I'm suprised it was able to continue with its limited membership pool as long as it has.
Good news indeed for those suitably qualified.
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Post by bod on May 27, 2006 12:45:42 GMT
Only if they turn the lights out on their helmets and keep their budgies quiet.
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Post by bod on May 22, 2006 20:52:57 GMT
But r they bovered? S&F Richard Nah, they never really got into the habit....... Mike - I can understand why you feel that a uniform dress code eliminates snobbery and the like, but it doesn't really, you only have to look around the lodge room to realise that. See how many are in 'stripey strides' as opposed to a plain black suit.....
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Post by bod on May 20, 2006 16:33:24 GMT
It means they're all mad monks, more like. Wouldn't be allowed into Bluewater.......
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Post by bod on May 17, 2006 21:20:28 GMT
Wow!
If dropping the wearing of a tie is seen as controversial, can you imagine the apoplexy at the suggestion of going 'casual'....
As our brothers from the US & Australia have pointed out, the apron is badge, the rest is superfluous, I can wear jeans to church, why not to lodge?
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Post by bod on May 17, 2006 21:15:18 GMT
Bro Richard, yep, it is.
If you want more info drop me a pm, cheers
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Post by bod on May 16, 2006 21:20:41 GMT
I want a coloured blazer and slacks!
Incidentally, someone did mentioned a lodge in Henley that does wear rowing club blazers and slacks, complete with boater......
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Post by bod on May 16, 2006 21:14:34 GMT
Indeed, discretion being the better part of valour and all that.
I do think ties are completely stupid items tho and should be done away with totally, everywhere.
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