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Post by KNOs1s on Mar 13, 2010 18:36:02 GMT
It will be interesting if we can discern whether the universe is limited or boundless. Boundless, meaning that it will continue to grow and expand unobstructed. A lot of that has to do with the sum of the gravitational mass in the universe, and whether that mass might cause the universe to eventually return to a singularity and create another Big Bang. I suppose it's of interest either way. ;D
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Post by sammy on Mar 13, 2010 18:53:35 GMT
perhaps it only provides the amount of space needed to satisfy the will imposed on it. being a need a brought up and it fills the gap with essentialy nothing except distance. leaving its existance dependant on the one percieving the need.
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Post by KNOs1s on Mar 13, 2010 22:01:24 GMT
It really is a matter which the physicists have not yet come to consensus. It might contract, or continue to expand until molecules are stretched to the size of solar systems, or some thing else altogether.
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Post by sammy on Mar 14, 2010 1:14:00 GMT
that would be a big molecule HAHA
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Post by sammy on Mar 14, 2010 1:24:23 GMT
if size is based off perception how are we possitive we dont expand at a constant rate? if its a constant and unwavering force it would have no ripples to realize and everything would apear and feel the same.
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Post by KNOs1s on Mar 14, 2010 6:26:40 GMT
The question of how to measure the change if the tape measure grows at an equal pace as the observed mass.
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Post by maximus on Mar 14, 2010 11:13:13 GMT
The question of how to measure the change if the tape measure grows at an equal pace as the observed mass. A magic tape measure? Really now...
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Post by sammy on Mar 14, 2010 14:11:12 GMT
HAHA max, but yeah basicly knos
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Post by sammy on Mar 14, 2010 15:44:52 GMT
just had a thought see what you guys think. as far as personal perception, truth is the key, laughter is the lock, and love is the door.
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Post by KNOs1s on Mar 14, 2010 20:39:17 GMT
The question of how to measure the change if the tape measure grows at an equal pace as the observed mass. A magic tape measure? Really now... I have one in my magic wallet. I'll get it-it's in my magic spaghetti car. ;D
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Post by KNOs1s on Mar 14, 2010 20:41:10 GMT
just had a thought see what you guys think. as far as personal perception, truth is the key, laughter is the lock, and love is the door. I think you could move around the words and consider closer. Perhaps; 'Love is the key, truth is the lock, and laughter is the door.' Who knows?
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Post by sammy on Mar 14, 2010 21:43:47 GMT
HAHA true the statements could be said in any placement
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Post by QUEST on Apr 1, 2010 2:41:20 GMT
Keith said,"there is order in the universe, so in a way that proves the existance of an higher power". But if the universe is as old as some say, would it not balance itself out after a while? also, I had to do some deep thinking on my definition of God. Never really tried to pin that one down. But, I would start by saying, It would be all-knowing and powerful. Not so much a body, but a concious force. Reading some of the comments has helped me look deeper into my understand of God.
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Post by KNOs1s on Apr 1, 2010 4:18:56 GMT
That's a fair place to start. I think a conscious force that operates the universe much as we operate our physical bodies is one possibility. If we take the 'existence of a higher power' as a leaping point, for the sake of argument, would the universe 'age' analogous to the way we do? If so, what 'age' is it now? Perhaps a teenager, or even a young adult? Perhaps yet an infant? An infinite amount of possibilities...
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Post by sammy on Apr 5, 2010 13:30:43 GMT
agreed very good place to start, even outside of a universal influance, as people we keep a standard of who to be and how to act in hopes to have faith in our own society's. this is how i see things, if you think over your decisions and make the best choices you can in your situation you would have done everything you could do and have no fault in that even in failure. in respect to prophesies and other many various things ive experianced, meaning if things that havnt took place yet and are for sure going to happen. so lets say for a second every act that happens was allready known or recorded. mostly people see this as not having a choice or choices arent made if they were allready set. i disagree because in a let's say bad situation you would have broken down your choices, you would get a path set out before you took a step on it. in this understanding any of us would not only have done what we did but we would do it again till the end of time, being that was the best answer in that situation at the time. how the different paths play out makes who we are, they are different applications but same in effect.
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Post by KNOs1s on Apr 6, 2010 15:53:43 GMT
Some great thoughts here, Sammy. Whether or not there is a central ordering consciousness to the universe, we as animals are constrained by our very natures. Attempts to 'break out' of our natures could be proof of our constraints. We all are driven to look for the best; the best food, the best mates, the best clothes, the best cars, the best conditions &c. Our path is laid out for us, whether by gods, goddesses, or nature. Despite that conditioning, either from God, society, or biological impulse-I agree. There is where the soul lies. Humans have the capacity to consciously and willfully make good or bad choices. Unmodified animal behavior is fairly predictable, though it is not so in humans.
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Post by sammy on Apr 9, 2010 16:19:36 GMT
thank you
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Post by 1wizardstone on Jan 3, 2011 6:40:54 GMT
The mysterious patterns of goodness objectionally exist in all areas.... the word itself is also a verb and function. I believe in that overhead pattern to come to my aid and it does... through dynamics I have quit trying to figure out. For if it could be explained then it would be science and then another mysterious pattern of awe and goodness will be experienced and known... forever being reffered to as God or his works.... or divine interventions.
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Post by maximus on Jan 3, 2011 20:40:31 GMT
The mysterious patterns of goodness objectionally exist in all areas.... Why would it be objectionable? Or did you mean objectively? If it were explained by science, then it would be a known quantity, and no longer mysterious and miraculous.
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Post by 1wizardstone on Jan 4, 2011 2:32:10 GMT
The mysterious patterns of goodness objectionally exist in all areas.... Why would it be objectionable? Or did you mean objectively? If it were explained by science, then it would be a known quantity, and no longer mysterious and miraculous. Oh ya.. you're right. I meant objectively. But, ya.. the same as what you said. Those patterns are not understood and cannot be directly controlled, so belief and faith is very helpful for becoming in sync with it (via, connection to God or the divine), depending on one's own definition of such words. Well anyway, that's the way I see it... for it grounds me in something solid.
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