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Post by sammy on Jan 4, 2011 14:23:39 GMT
I know what you mean 1wizardstone with "it grounds me in something solid.". I see it like floating in space then every once in while getting a glimmer of light to head toward (if you want to). Once done you achieve some ground to stand on. For the purpose of the metaphore it would be like finding a habitable planet, or the purpose of reality some thoughts to help hold you together.
This growth is sometimes slow and sometimes hard, but steps are needed to keep us together while we change from mass to mass. Someone might discover everyone on Earth more or less doesnt know what were doing here, but if you keep yourself together you might discover MANY are searching for that truth and we are all a part of that search. If you dont have a good ground to stand on you might overreact or even come apart from some truths of the world, wich I think is why we have eachother to help keep us together. I consider this to be the whole picture the light, mass, and the shadow it casts. We can only guess what God is up to, but I also am overly sure he is deffinately up to something for everyone.
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Post by 1wizardstone on Jan 4, 2011 18:45:52 GMT
I know what you mean 1wizardstone with "it grounds me in something solid.". I see it like floating in space then every once in while getting a glimmer of light to head toward (if you want to). Once done you achieve some ground to stand on. For the purpose of the metaphore it would be like finding a habitable planet, or the purpose of reality some thoughts to help hold you together. This growth is sometimes slow and sometimes hard, but steps are needed to keep us together while we change from mass to mass. Someone might discover everyone on Earth more or less doesnt know what were doing here, but if you keep yourself together you might discover MANY are searching for that truth and we are all a part of that search. If you dont have a good ground to stand on you might overreact or even come apart from some truths of the world, wich I think is why we have eachother to help keep us together. I consider this to be the whole picture the light, mass, and the shadow it casts. We can only guess what God is up to, but I also am overly sure he is deffinately up to something for everyone. I don't know for sure... it is a picture I developed. Throughout history, I see God, the gods or the divine as the unpredictable, uncontrollable "mysterious" patterns of goodness. Of course once understood by science or whatever it goes into our hands and is considered out of the "works of God" loop. The patterns will be infinute of course ... circling overhead. So, I have arrived to the conclusion that since "mysterious" is part of the meaning it has to just be accepted as is, as mysterious, but belief and faith will do the job of aligning one in sync with it or to experience it more often by many ways I suppose, the subconscious dynamic being one of them. Most people have no idea just how much such beliefs have shaped the world, humanity or reality. People are being trained that all of it leads to ignorence or terrorist attacks and computers or science is now the new external authority. Yet, a big portion of its existence or current state is due to beliefs in God, the gods and the divine in the first place. When they look at the pyramids or the statue of Zues they can't even grasp that beliefs were a big cause for its creationand, yet them looking at it means its affecting them, in turn affecting something else... and therefore as one finds out beliefs become a part of creation even in a tangible form in time, ad infinitum. Such things are the reasons why atheists can't stand me, lol.
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Post by mwsglafam on Jan 8, 2011 6:40:16 GMT
Yes if you ask me as masons it is very simple i was taught that masons were learned (skilled) in Building some of the worlds Greatest edifices so where did this ideal to build come from it is inherited from the G.A.O.T.U. if man creates buildings cars t.v. computers etc. who created the sun the moon the sky trees we most certainly did not if that does not peak interest then tell me
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Post by sammy on Jan 10, 2011 15:02:10 GMT
Yes if you ask me as masons it is very simple i was taught that masons were learned (skilled) in Building some of the worlds Greatest edifices so where did this ideal to build come from it is inherited from the G.A.O.T.U. if man creates buildings cars t.v. computers etc. who created the sun the moon the sky trees we most certainly did not if that does not peak interest then tell me Id say its obvious "changing the state of current reality" is as common as... well planets, since thats what planets, galaxies, stars, etc... do. Everything about our existance is combining and taking away, but once in a while we figure out how to combine without taking away and if something is lost its turned into a gain. I have allways been amazed at our urge to change, shape, and create when no other creature known has done so. I do feal like were being taught, wich leaves the question who is teaching? Regardless of our inability to commerce with this teacher its the focus on lessons that are trying to be taught. I do believe our time on Earth has been for reasons of personal and social growth, but with people/entities we dont even understand. It was said we were created in his image, but I never read anything saying we acted the same ways. The ability comes from within and from anyone, its his choice to choose his own and its up to us to choose him in ours.
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Post by sammy on Jan 10, 2011 15:38:46 GMT
I was thinking about a refferance to God's one mind and had a strange thought form. If we all share this mind, the mind itself would be like a blank (O) and outside of any ownership even to a diety. In this respect any "mind" would be of this root and a part of that growth, and perhaps God can only choose one side being like a light on a mass it casts a shadow.
I also have seen how a shadow is scary only if you make it out to be and perhaps we had to learn even if its dark were not in jeapordy if you can see your own light (consciousness). I have no physical proof, but I think forgetting about someone is beyond him.
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Post by vajranagini on Jun 13, 2011 3:13:59 GMT
Actually, the best scripture to lead one to enlightenment is the Bhagavad-Gita; I like the Juan Mascaro version published by Penguin.
I got turned on to the B-G when I read the account of the thoughts of Dr. Robert Oppenheimer upon seeing nuclear power unleashed for the first time; he remarked that the sight had brought to mind the eleventh chapter in the B-G [where the appearance of God was described as being like "a thousand suns rising in the sky together" and "destroyer of worlds".
When 9-11-2001 hit, for some strange reason, I was compelled to check out these chapters in that scripture.
I found that reading chapters nine to eleven a very powerful act of faith; the chapters in question are the heart of the whole Scripture, where God reveals himself to the faithful devotee.
Of course the God in question is Vishnu and the avatar is Krishna, but that need not deter one; the Hindu methods produce quick results. Simply taking the time to read these chapters will bring about great spiritual result very quickly; the Hindus are well aware of the power of this scripture to transform one's life.
Mahatma Gandhi learned about the Bhagavad Gita from Swami Vivekananda who was introduced to it through his English professors, who recommended it highly, and who was privileged to have it expounded to him by the Saint of Dakshineswar himself, Shri Ramakrishna.
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Post by vajranagini on Jun 13, 2011 3:36:22 GMT
Actually, I just recalled to mind an anecdote about the life of Shri Ramakrishna.
At one point Shri Ramakrishna was debating a theological point with his disciple, Mathur Babu; Mathur argued that God, having decreed the laws of existence, had then to abide by those laws; Ramakrishna smilingly disagreed, saying that "The One who made the laws can also change or abolish them, should They so desire."
But Mathur stuck stubbornly to his position. "You will never see white flowers suddenly bloom on a red-flowered bush, for such is God's law" he declared.
The very next day, when Ramakrishna went for his morning constitutional in the pine grove, he encountered two hibiscus blossoms growing from one twig, one as red as a rose, the other pure white with no trace of red anywhere. He broke off the twig with the two flowers on it, went directly to where Mathur was finishing his breakfast and laid the twig in front of him. Mathur was wonderstruck to see this response of the Universe to his declaration.
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Post by h1n1ri on Jun 28, 2011 18:16:52 GMT
I GOD is works on the trees the air we breath 2 me god is real just a few years ago i had a budey who lost hes mom dad and sester and when i look in side hes eyes i seen no pan i seen joy in hes eyes now at that time my wife broke up wet me i falt so week i could not go on then one day he shows up wet the bible and took me under hes wing's i wuz workn 2 jobs at that time and i a child of my own 2 take kare of just that alone the pain he went therw i could not emagen and i dnt now if he has kids or not but i now one thing i think of hem offetn i would work 2 jobs and when i get paid just barley got my car not i stard away from my job saten got a hould of me i could not be strong like he ded i wuz a cowerd but im back lookn 4 a job church and log meetings the power of fath in god is a bond that no man can brack the Temptation of christ and jeses being full of the Holy Gohost returnet from jordn and was led by the spirit into the wilderness being forty days tempted of the devil and in thos days he ded eat nuthing and when they were ended he afterward hunggered and the devil said onto hem if u be the son of god command this stons that it be mad of bread and jesus sad it is written that man shall not live by bread alone but by every word of God SEE When i wus marred i dent add god in my life and i just work gym teach my kids rid a bike but i studey read and go to my log meetings cutnt it short got to go a 'bo 'z
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Post by sammy on Jul 23, 2011 13:44:32 GMT
Posted by H1n1ri, (spell checked). GOD works on the trees and the air we breath, to me god is real. Just a few years ago I had a buddy who lost his mom dad and sister, and when I look inside his eyes I saw no pain. I saw joy in his eyes.
Now at that time my wife broke up with me, I felt so week I could not go on. Then one day he shows up with the bible and took me under his wing's. I was workin 2 jobs at that time and I had a child of my own to take care of. That alone, the pain he went through I could not imagine. I dont now if he has kids or not but I now one thing, i think of them often.
I would work 2 jobs and when I get paid, I just barley got my car and I steared away from my job satan got a hold of me. I could not be strong like he did, I was a coward but im back lookin for a job, church, and lodge meetings. The power of faith in god is a bond that no man can break. The Temptation of christ and jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from jordan and was led by the spirit into the wilderness. Being fourty days tempted of the devil and in those days he did eat nothing. When they were ended, he afterward hunggered and the devil said onto him "if u be the son of god command this stone that it be made of bread". Jesus said it is written that man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God. SEE When i was maried i didnt add god in my life and i just work, gym, teach my kids, ride a bike, but i study read and go to my lodge meetings.
cutnt it short, got to go a 'boy 'z Please take no offense in my spell checking this, I realy liked what you had to say. I just want others to be able to do so easily as well. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences. Im overjoyed you are on your path toward God.
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Post by sammy on Oct 12, 2011 13:41:02 GMT
An interesting pic I found of mouses brain cell and of space. I was thinking about a refferance to God's one mind and had a strange thought form. If we all share this mind, the mind itself would be like a blank (O) and outside of any ownership even to a diety. In this respect any "mind" would be of this root and a part of that growth, and perhaps God can only choose one side being like a light on a mass it casts a shadow. I also have seen how a shadow is scary only if you make it out to be and perhaps we had to learn even if its dark were not in jeapordy if you can see your own light (consciousness). I have no physical proof, but I think forgetting about someone is beyond him.
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Post by nventr on Oct 14, 2011 5:32:30 GMT
What if we are each just a cell in the body of God?
What would that mean?
I have pondered that for years. It’s an interesting contemplation.
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Post by sammy on Oct 15, 2011 14:50:39 GMT
I think we are that exactly, we are the physical emobdiment of our conscious memory. The memory not being ours but his, and he lets us share that as his thoughts. He is like us, but only if we are being like him. We obviousely cant do as much, but our rythems and structures are similair. The frame of mind to that level of thought or people is equality, there is no upper or lower. We can see around us his gifts, as well as his limits.
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Post by rorax30 on Oct 18, 2011 6:21:01 GMT
I can proved that God exist with evidence. If you noticed the mountain onwards the mountain of ticalaan bukidnon, it was a pyramid like mountain visible at a distance of 50kms due to its enormous height. Last April 2008, this mountain was changed into two smaller mountains which showed that the creator was here.Evident because until now the smaller mountain stood still and are visible in Lumbia airport. Another miracle was. I was sick last January 2008 with all the precognition of earth's destruction and was lying in bed and on leave for my work as an airport maintenance engineer in Lumbia Airport,CDO. It was 3pm in the afternoon and a very Hot day due the collapsed of the earth's magnetic field allowing direct sunlight to pass through. My wife let lie int he rattan chair and left me alone.I was very sick and weak because i have no appetite and eat a little. Then I saw this Light in a split second,too fast, slashing me and passes through my flesh but it was painless. Then I noticed that my body was slowly transforming into gas and I felt so hot after 10 hits of that sort of laser light. My wife came out and hold me but she touches nothing because I was transformed.then I didint remember a thing until next day when I wake up solid again with my wife and father and mother was beside me. That incident made me conclude that God had shown me that he can transformed all things and to me it implied an assurance for salvation. Well that miracle didint just happen by chance. It happened because I was consistently praying to be healed and I don't whose God to call.A faith healer give me a prayer it was sort of latin and it starts with the word anematam execolom and it was so,miracle happened in me. Im interested to take part in your forum because I'm interested in your group.particularly the symbols.the eye in the triangle etc... thanks guys for making part of these forum.God Bless!
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Post by choochoo808 on Oct 18, 2011 14:31:24 GMT
What if we are each just a cell in the body of God? What would that mean? I have pondered that for years. It’s an interesting contemplation. I've been dwelling on this recently, too, especially in regards to, "As above, so below." When we rebel and "sin", do we become a tumor to our Host? Are our cells souls similar to us, and are we therefore their God? It's mindnumbing.
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Post by maat on Oct 18, 2011 23:41:11 GMT
When we rebel and "sin", do we become a tumor to our Host? You missed the mark on this one. You reckon? I think that the idea might be developed by choochoo. If all is ONE ultimately, then anything here is part of anything there. The GA is supposed to Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent. Tumors are energy patterns which affect other enery patterns. We are an energy pattern which affect other energy patterns.
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Post by whistler on Oct 19, 2011 0:13:21 GMT
This is an impossible question which is impossible to answer. First you must discover your own creation, and then your creators creation. If we are but a chemical reaction who or what stirred the Chemicals We cant even prove that everything we see or do is not a figment of our imagination. A more important question for Freemasons - is how can we best deliver the lesson of the 5th stage of the Fellow craft Degree
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Post by rorax30 on Oct 19, 2011 6:08:50 GMT
For goat rider: I don't know if you are from Philippines bro or not but if you are from our country,maybe sometimes you can check us here in Mindanao for I,m not lying. I swear to God and I'll die tomorrow I made some lie.Thanks
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Post by maat on Oct 20, 2011 0:39:26 GMT
I'm going to have a beer and look for a good looking energy pattern for some good old-fashioned duality. ;D ... unity...unity. You silly old goat... ;D
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Post by choochoo808 on Oct 20, 2011 15:07:37 GMT
Goodness, I was just sharing a passing thought that the mouse cell/rendering of the universe picture reminded me of. I think I'd even posed it as a question, since I'm basically lost.
I heard nary a mention of snarkiness or snickering in catechisms and ritual.
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Post by maat on Oct 20, 2011 23:20:25 GMT
Goodness, I was just sharing a passing thought that the mouse cell/rendering of the universe picture reminded me of. I think I'd even posed it as a question, since I'm basically lost. I heard nary a mention of snarkiness or snickering in catechisms and ritual. Don't worry choochoo, you will find quite a lot of it on forums. Never quite figured out why. Just keep asking your questions, here - there - everywhere. Seekers WILL find eventually. Maybe the obstacles are part of the course, to test our strength and resolve. My money is on you.
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